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Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)

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From: Jim De Arras
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:43
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In article <275@moene.UUCP> toon@moene.uucp (Toon Moene) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.020819.157@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@ihcoco.att.com  
>(Felix A. Lugo) writes:
>> 
>> 	I don't know what you're talking about!  8-)
>> 
>> 	What I do know, however, is that a bigoted FEW want to
>> 	DICTATE what other people may or may not do in this newsgroup;
>> 	-- AND I'M SICK OF IT!  (I should have used RTF for this line).
>> 
>> 	c.s.n.MISC:  Hum, it's name sure fits where such postings
>> 		     CAN be made!
>>  
>========================================================================== 
>=
>> Felix A. Lugo
>> 
>> E-Mail: (NeXTmail preferred)			Felix_A_Lugo@ATT.COM
>> 						coco@ihcoco.att.com
>>      AT&T NeXT User Group			nug@ihcoco.att.com
>
>       ^^^^ It has been written before: NOTE WHOM WE'RE PAYING TO
>	    FOR THESE RTF/PICTURE/SOUNDS POSTS.
>
>>      HOME NeXTcube				home@ihcoco.att.com
>>  
>========================================================================== 
>=
>
>Sorry, Felix, but you're not unbiased in this respect.
>
>--
>Toon Moene (toon@moene.uucp)
>Kantershof 269, 1104 GN  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
>Tel.: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411
>No Disclaimers; a NeXT at home protects against this occupational hazard.
>
Having been to The Netherlands, and indeed scheduled back there in a month for
meetings, I cannot imagine you would have the knowledge to comment on the US
phone system, based on the dutch PTT.  

But, to explain it, AT&T has very little to gain from RTF postings.  They may
supply some of the backbone circuits, but those are fixed cost.  The little
additional traffic RTF poses when compared to the alt.gif crowd means that any
argument about the additional RTF load requiring additional backbone circuits
to be added would be hard to prove.

That leaves what I think you were getting at, that it, dial-up time.  With
the breakup of the Bell system, AT&T gets very little, if indeed any, of the
local message unit charges.  That would be the bulk of the phone co. portion
of uucp access charges.  Of the much fewer folks that must dial long distance
to connect, even then, regional long distance is, for the most part, charged by
the regional operating companies.  Of the remain long-distance calls, yes, a
percentage will go AT&T.  How many get RTF I don't know, but you see we've
really trimmed the field.  But we also have other long-distance companies,
which tend to be cheaper for a uucp style call, so AT&T, and Felix, could
hardly care from a monetary return point of view one way or the other about
RTF.

I do, however, tend to agree with his point of view.

This message was posted, and reached the NFS backbone, using no AT&T circuits.

Jim De Arras
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