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Re: NeXTStep 486 should cost $250

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From: Joe Freeman
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:24
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In article <1992Apr10.164205.3372@cs.yale.edu> you write:
>In article <bf7H1pbm6@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)  
>writes:
>
>
>Not only that, but NeXTstep 486 will only run on *select*
>(ie the most expensive) 486 machines.
Its not clear that that is true.  You pay what you want and you
get the appropriate performance.  If you want 68030 performance,
then you can get it.  On the other hand, prices are ramping
in the right direction.  Last year, everyone would have
burned NeXT for requiring a 486

>
>How is NeXT supposed to explain that NeXTstep can only
>display mono with that Super VGA card in your 486 that
>OS/2 and Windows can use for cheerful color?
That one is pretty easy.  There are two reasons that come
to mind immediately

1)	NeXT uses a (psuedo)true color imaging model.  All
application writers know that they can count on asking PS for
any color.  And, it will give it to them.  The 8 bit cards are
palette driven and will not follow the model.  NeXT doesn't
want to break the model (more mail in bound with a list of
non standard 12 bit graphic cards :-) )

2)	The AT backplane will barely support the gray scale
blitting that we do.  Remeber all windows are backing stored and
smooth scrolling (expensive) is always supported.  The PCISA 
bus was not really intended for the amount of data that flys 
across at 1024x768 by several bits.
>
>> In short, I think appealing to the basic human instinct of
>> greed will get NeXT a lot farther.  Very few people will
>> spend $5K on a computer, and NeXT doesn't even sell a
>> standalone computer $5K.  Those that will don't want to
Not true.  NeXT is about the only workstation company that does
sell a $5K computer.  The minimal system is useable and is
adequate for certain problem areas.  Though, larger configurations
are better.  Most workstations come diskless or  ramless at
the entry price (oh boy I can see all the email coming in 
at how everyone's favorite computer doesn't come that way)

>Wouldn't it be great if NeXT either added enough RAM/HD to
>the 5K/3.5K (list/edu) price, or lowered the price
>altogether? Instead of purchasing a $5K NeXTstation,
>then adding $450 of RAM (removing 4 MB), then adding a $1K
>external HD, wouldn't it be great if 16 MB RAM and 400 MB of
>disk was included!? 
>
The configuration has become better in the mid range of the
product line (16/250).  Those are a better value.


On the pricing.  Was that 
A)	Higher Education
B)	List Price
C)	Street Price


-- 
Joe Freeman	jfreem@uncecs.edu
		jfreeman@next.com (NeXT Mail)
The opinions espressed here are my own and are not shared by my employer  or
anyone else I know of.  Flames can be mailed to me or routed to /dev/null.
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep 486 should cost $250
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Date: 14 Apr 92 12:24:50 GMT
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