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Re: INN (InterNetNews) on the NeXT

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From: Jim De Arras
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1992 15:28
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In article <720378739snx@erix.demon.co.uk> eric@erix.demon.co.uk (Eric Cafritz)  
writes:
> 
> In article <1cnmo8INNsaa@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com writes:
> 
> >
> >I just finished porting INN 1.2 to the NeXT (3.0) and would like to compare  
> >'war stories' with anyone else who has also converted.
> >
> 
> I did too.  I fiddled around for days with the config.data file, until
> I figured out that all I had to do by way of major change was to comment out
> the entry in /etc/inetd.conf that I had previously made for nntp when
> running the "Reference Implementation".  This entry (even when modified to 
> call innd instead of nntpd) kept innd from binding to port 119.  
> Apparently, innd doesn't like the inetd daemon. 

That is, of course, the trick behind INN.  It stays in memory between uses, to  
maintain ram-resident lists, rather than be launched at each connect by inetd  
for each session, and reading the config stuff each time!
 
> 
> Otherwise, INN compiles near perfectly, with DEFS Dregister and DNeXT  
> and a few other changes (like adding mkfifo;and using 
> LOG_LOCAL7, instead of LOG_NEWS, to use the existing syslogd). 
> 

Did you add -Wimplicit?  That causes a bunch of warnings, which I felt compeled  
to fix, since the nastiest bugs are caused by implicit declarations at times!
What did mkfifo do for you?  I didn't see that.


> I find the documentation for INN very thin when it comes to running
> the installed software.  All in all though, it is much easier to keep track
> of INN than it is to run C-News and the Reference Implementation for nntp.
> It also seems faster.

It is easier to manage.  It is much faster.  And best of all, it is SMOOTH!   
Instead of the NNTP/C-NEWS gather batch/unspool batch cycles where the unspool  
eats the total file system bandwidth for 40-80 seconds at a time, INN posts the  
messages at they arrive, with no temporary storage, for a very low, smooth,  
file system load, and a very low load factor to boot!  Even on my '030.

> --- 
> eric@erix.coudert.com or eric@erix.demon.co.uk
> 

Jim

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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
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Subject: Re: INN (InterNetNews) on the NeXT
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Date: 1 Nov 92 15:28:01 GMT
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