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Re: NT: please define vapor.

#1979
From: Scott Byer
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:53
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Stephen E. Halpin writes

> Im curious where Microsoft admits this.

MicroSoft acknowledges that the percentage use of Windows packages is
about %30.  The other %60 take up shelf space.

> Vapor?  How many units did NeXT sell in its first two months?  Microsoft
> has sold 10,000 Windows NT Developer Kits, and it hasnt even hit beta
> stage yet.

As long as it's not *released*, it's vapor.

> What are you refering to when you talk about the UI?  A menu is a
> menu, a button is a button, etc...  Once youve launched an application
> you can safely ignore the "desktop", at which point youre at the mercy
> of the application designer.  If the designer has layed out dialog
> boxes correctly, given the user an appropriate amount of direct control
> over the data s/he is working with, and done some decent graphics
> design you have a good UI that will work over almost any imaging model.
> This has nothing to do with Microsoft or Windows.

Uhm, yeah.  The *environment* is all part of the GUI.  Dialog box
layout, etc. is *all* affected by the imaging model and the API the
GUI environment presents.  A menu *isn't* a menu.  Some work better
than others.  The NeXT menus all work smoothly, are detachable, and
present information in a visually readable and consistent way.  Doing
drag-and-drop, for example - it's very easy on the NeXT, and as such,
nearly every application has it.  Same with services.  These are part
of the GUI's API.  I don't see that kind of interoperability on other
platforms yet, mostly because it is such a pain to do on them.

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