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In article <dillon.0noj@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep13.053045.25655@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin) writes:
>>>In article <jbone.716346951@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>>  <<stuff deleted>>
>>>I don't think that argument is refutable --- it's merely one
>>>...
>>
>>UNIX is hell on wheels for your average user.	Would you have your
>>secretary writing up printcaps?  True UNIX has a pathetic file system
>>(fsck? BAHAHAHA!!!), doesnt support a standard uniform model for threads,
>
>    Oh this is really funny... so you would rather use CHKDSK on a PC?
  <<tons o' stuff deleted>>

The topic was Windows NT vs UNIX.  Windows NT uses a log based file system,
so it can rebuild itself completely after a crash.  I recently came across
an article indicating the Univel system will be using the same type of file
system, so this may be a moot point.  As for crashing, Ive had a number of
of crashes on DOS, UNIX and VMS.  Ive never had a DOS crash Norton couldnt
fix.  Ive never had a VMS crash where the basic boot process didnt restore
the file system correctly.  Ive had numerous problems with fsck on UNIX,
and my experience indicates that UNIX is far more likely to require operator
intervention if the power went down when no users were logged in.

One of the neat things about UNIX is that it has no internals (:-) and its
externals are easily duplicated.  As a microkernel with personality modules
(one of which is a POSIX module) you should have youre most important system
calls available (though some NASTY \r <-> \n mapping problems) to build
your favorite UNIX tools and shells.  If someone can merge an X server into
the POSIX environment the question becomes "if it looks like a duck and acts
like a duck, why are we still calling it a Pigeon?"  Yes, it has shades of the
"MACH as the next UNIX" argument, but Windows NT is in many ways the next MACH.

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-Steve