🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <jbone.716567062@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) writes:
>>
>> I find it interesting that in this thread (and in the
>> other which was comparing NeXTStep to Windows NT), that
>> the same people who were quick to label NT "vaporware"
>> seem to overlook that fact that NS 486 is equally
>> vaporous, even more so since NeXT is not making
>> NS 486 developers kits available for $69.
>
>Ah, but you see, NS486 is but a *port*, whereas NT is something sprung
>full-grown from the frontal lobes of Microsoft.  Personally, I trust
>NeXT to port a proven piece of software more than I trust Microsoft to
>write one.  ;)  Now, if it was a question of MS *buying* a piece of
>software and marketing it...  ;) ;)

In some ways it was a question of Microsoft buying out.  Dave Cutler, one
of the chief architects of VMS, left DEC to go to Microsoft and (co?)architect
Windows NT.  Some of the mistakes embedded in VMS were eliminated (the
joys of having a relatively clean sheet) and many modern features were
added.  Paralleling VMS, it has asynchronous IO, symmetric multiprocessing,
layered device drivers, and threads.  Modern additions include the
notion of a microkernel with personality modules, the internet protocols,
OSF compliant RPC, and a log based file system.  I would expect that they
hired quite a few other high level architects/engineers (didnt NeXTworld
have an article about one of the lead MACH designers getting a major offer?)
so Windows NT should be grown from experience instead of experimentation.

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>-- Jeff Bone ------------------------------------------------------------
>        NT...  Just say N0T.   Skate UN*X!   Standard disclaimer. 
>------------------------------------------------------- jbone@dell.com --

Taking things a COMPLETELY different direction, does anyone know if DG
will ever run NS on their boxes?  I recall something about 4 88100 class
chips in a box.  It wouldnt give the rumored NeXT dual 88110 machine a run for
its money, but for the power hungry (and the marketing hype of having a
true multiprocessing NeXTstep system shipping) it might make a good interim
product.

Also, has anyone had a chance to play with the 3Dkit?  Can it do anything
in realtime on the 68040 (with or without the ND card) or does one really
have to wait for the NRW?

-Steve