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Re: Mail <> NextMail

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From: Tom Marchioro
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:14
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borrel@dhhalden.no (B|rre Ludvigsen) writes:
: Can anyone please explain how I get Mail and NextNMail to coexist?
: I often have to log in through a terminal from the "outside world"
: to read and reply to my mail. Most things work, but "r"-replies are
: not happy as my name gets added to the to field, the cc field on the
: outgoing mail gets the user <addressee@myhost>, and when I look at
: the Outgoing.mbox/mbox with NextMail all outgoing mail sent by mail
: don't have "to's" at all. If I look at it with mail, their all to me.
: 
: There seems to have been a posting about this sometime back, but I only
: have a second hand rumor. Anyone save it?

well, I don't know about a "while back" but people seem to complain about
this *a lot*.  I certainly know that I find the NeXT command line mail
to be a real pain (is there *any* way to change the "indent prefix" ?? 
Setting it in the .mailrc file seems to be ignored).  The best advice
I can offer is to get a good mailer off the archives, and the one I have, 
Elm, also gives somewhat of a solution to your problem (i.e. that
NeXTmail suck everything into it's own mbox every time it's run). When you
get and install Elm, and then run it for hte first time, it asks you 
what you want the default directory for mail to be.  Tell it to use
~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox, and then you're using the same directory that
NeXTmail does.  Elm has countless nice features, not least of which is
that it supports multiple mail folders (as does NeXTmail) and you can 
change between them easily.  Thus, with the directory choice given above
all you have to do to get the NeXTmail box back is type a "c" for "change 
mail folder" and when you're prompted to name the new file type "mbox"
which will give you back all the messages read into NeXTmail.  I've been
doing this for months and itworks so nicely I would **literally** remove 
the crappy NeXT /ucb/mail application if I weren't uncertain whether it 
might serve some other purpose.  

As for getting and installing Elm, there seems to be some question how
to go about this. It was posted not too long ago (I believe by EPS, and
if so it's the *only* time I've seen him make an error :-) that you
had to make Elm on your machine because it had to be configured for hte 
local system.  However, ALL I did was to grab the binaries off of another
machine (I forget where, Uwashington someplace) as well as the help files
and the manual, drop them in place, and everything runs *perfectly*.  
I can take all of this stuff and make a .tar.Z to put on Sonata, but 
(1) I'm inthe process of moving to a new position and my plate is too
full to get to this for at least 7-10 days and (2) I'm running a modestly
old version of Elm (2.11 I think).  Perhaps some other kind soul could 
put together a package on the FTP centers. If not people can drop me a
note and I'll put what I have on the archives in a couple weeks.

Hope this is Helpful --- Tom
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From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Mail <> NextMail
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