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Article #2847Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
From: Matthew Dillon
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 04:58
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 04:58
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>In article <1992Oct8.025357.9551@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
>>In article <1ask66INN2ga@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu>
>
>I would NEVER put the battery in backwards! If they have a protection diode,
>it will do nothing. If not, you run the risk of damaging the clock chip, or of
>exploding caps or even (remotely) blowing the battery seals!
If the battery is connected directly to the RTC chip then you are
definitely forward biasing the static discharge diodes internal to the
device, about 50 ohms per pin (in parallel) if you reverse the battery.
This would destroy the RTC chip rather quickly.
if there is a protection diode across the batterly leads (and not
inline) to protect the RTC chip, the battery will be shorted and can,
literally, explode.
On the otherhand, if NeXT has inserted a diode in series with the
battery, then nothing will happen at all because the diode will be
reverse biased.
I don't know what RTC chip the NeXT is using. Most RTC chips, like the
ones from Dallas Semiconductor, draw picoamps (on the order of 300pA or
less). Therefore, the bypass capacitors alone would be able to retain
enough voltage to run the RTC for several minutes. The best solution
is to take out the battery and short the battery terminals on the
motherboard together for a second or two to discharge the bypass
capacitors.
NOTE: I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS MYSELF but it's certainly safer then
putting the battery in backwards!
-Matt
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>Jim
>
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!overload!dillon From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password Distribution: world Message-ID: <dillon.0ox7@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> References: <1ask66INN2ga@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu> <1992Oct8.025357.9551@cube.handheld.com> Date: 8 Oct 92 20:58:41 PST Organization: Not an Organization Lines: 54