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Article #2979Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
From: Matthew Dillon
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:19
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:19
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>In article <1992Oct12.031200.15821@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
>>In article <dillon.0p24@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US
>> current == no heat. For example, diodes are often used in battery
>> charging circuits like this:
>>
>> +12V from supply ----*DIODE*----x----> system power
>> |
>> +!2V from battery --------------/
>>
>> When AC is available it charges the battery. When AC is not available
>>..
>Where did you get this dangerous mis-information!! Do not EVER, repeat, EVER
>attempt to charge a standard lithium cell. You are looking at a nasty mess at
>BEST, if the seals blow, and a VERY REAL, blow a hole in the board and you,
>explosion if the seals fail to blow. Lithium cells do not take a joke!
Silly person, you didn't read the article very closely. The above was
an EXAMPLE of what is one of the most common charging configurations
for batteries... a regulator and a diode. It has nothing to do with
lithium cells (the above circuit is actually used to charge lead-acid
gel cells). To charge a lithium cell, and you *can* do it, you have to
be much more careful.
The above example was simply illustrative of one of many uses DIODES
are put to, in response to an earlier comment by someone who was
worried that reverse biasing a diode would destroy it eventually, which
is nonsense.
>> I presume that NeXT is using a similar circuit to power the real time
>> clock and prevent the battery from trying to power the system +5.
>>
>Let's hope not!
Believe it or not people use trickle charge circuits all the time to
extend the life of lithium batteries in backup situations. This is
usually necessary only when the battery would discharge due to current
requirements long before it's normal shelf life expires. With a proper
charging circuit you can extend the lithium batteries backup
capabilities all the way to its shelf life limit (5yr or 10yr usu). In
applications where the shelf life would expire before the nominal mAH
of the battery is used up such a circuit is not required.
>(Will this topic ever end? :-) ) I cannot let dangerous misinformation remain
>as the final word, though. When it comes to putting batteries in ANYTHING
>backwards, "Just say no!"
>
>Jim
-Matt
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!overload!dillon From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password Distribution: world Message-ID: <dillon.0pa7@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> References: <dillon.0p24@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> <1992Oct12.031200.15821@cube.handheld.com> Date: 12 Oct 92 11:19:55 PST Organization: Not an Organization Lines: 58