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Article #3124Re: Kodak Photo CD
From: Michael B. Johnson
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 17:32
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 17:32
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Sean Lamont writes > In article <1992Nov5.074234.6889@ulrik.uio.no> Stein_Onsrud@siodata.uio.no writes: > >Are there anyone out there on the network, that knows anything about > >support for the Kodak PhotoCD system on the NeXT Platform. I understand > >that Sony will very soon ship a CD player that supports the multisession > >format from Kodak/Phillips, will this player ship as a NeXT Player ? > >On the PC and mac platforms there is allready a number of Software vendors > >that either already supports the format or say they will. What about > >software on the NeXT ? > > There is a MAJOR thread going on about this in alt.cd-rom (being > erroniously crossposted to alt.sources as well) > Barring the flame war that is going on there, as well as rec.photo and other places, as to the question of Photo-CD support on the NeXT... I think the answer is no. Let me explain that. The current consumer Photo-CD, which is what most people talk about when they mention Photo-CD, holds five copies of a given image on the disc, of varying resolutions. The first three (I believe) are pretty much straight pixel dumps that are straightforward to get at. With a little effort, it's not too hard to grab the data. The top two, which are the most interesting ones, are encoded in such a way that you (for the most part) need software from Kodak to read the images. I say for the most part, because this also is not terribly difficult to write software to get at, but (and this is where the flame war erupted elsewhere) people on the net have written software to do this, and Kodak has warned them that selling this software will probably violate patents they have. Kodak's software is available in object code for the Mac and PC platform, for a nominal (or not so nominal, depending on your wallet) of around 5 or 6 hundred dollars. If you just need to convert the image as an end user, Kodak sells a program for about $40 to convert the image for both the Mac and PC platform. Kodak has yet to deliver the "UNIX" version of either the developer kit (the $500 or $600 package) or the end user app (the $40). I say "UNIX" because we all know that unless you get the source code, each platform is different. And since the two options I've talked about (the developer object code version and the end user executable) have no source code. From what I have heard from Kodak, their definition of UNIX is SUN, and that will ship sometime in the next year. So what if you want source code? That's $100K, I believe. Apple cut a deal with Kodak to put PhotoCD support into QuickTime, which I believe went out the door with QuickTime 1.5. This, coupled with Apple's new 300 and 300i CD ROM drive, presents a coherent strategy for addressing PhotoCD support. Given that SGI has licensed QuickTime from Apple, we can assume that SGI will (at some point) have support for PhotoCDs built in. So where does this leave NeXT? From what I've gathered, $100K is a lot of money to NeXT, and they're not convinced they should spend it. I don't really disagree, but between no real Wacom support and no easy way to import images from PhotoCD, a NeXT running Appsoft Image is not looking as nice an alternative to a souped up Quadra running Fractal Paint and PhotoShop. I'm bummin', because the combination of a color NeXT with a Wacom tablet, Appsoft Image, an Apple 300 CD-ROM drive, a stack of Photo CDs, and Stone Design's 3DReality had me salivating, but real reality (no pressure support in Image and no Photo CD support) is beginning to dawn... -- --> Michael B. Johnson --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> (617) 253-0663 -- wave@media-lab.media.mit.edu --> NeXT Mail accepted at wave@nordine.media.mit.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!news.media.mit.edu!news From: wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Kodak Photo CD Message-ID: <1992Nov5.173220.26980@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1992Nov5.104759.10294@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:32:20 GMT Lines: 63