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Article #3350New SUN's, Bad news for NeXT?
From: James Dehnert
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:11
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:11
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I just got a look at the new offerings from Sun, and it dosen't look good for NeXT. The have a new SPARCclassic and SPARCstation ( gee, i wonder where they got the ideas for those names?? ) Here are the number from the fact sheet ( certain to start a debate ). I'v heard all the crap about how these ratings are no indication of anything, but I have em' and I'm posting em'. Ignore them at you leisure. Processor microSPARC ( tsunami I believe ) Clock speed 50 Mhz SPECint 92 26.4 SPECfp 92 21.0 SPECrate int 92 626 SPECrate fp 92 498.1 MIPS/MFLOPS 59.1 / 4.6 Main Memory 16 - 96 Sbus slots 2 These numbers are for the classic and the station which seem to be the same system except for the color option. The base config for the clasic is as follows, 16 M Ram 15" color monitor ( 1024 x 768 ) 100 DPI 207 MB disk $4295 ( with discounts for quantity ) and for the station LX 16 M Ram 16" color monitor ( a few configs ) 42 NB disk ISDN on motherboard $7995 Add to this Tbase10 ( no thicknet ) and 10MB/sec SCSI 2 and you have a pretty tidy package. I had a chance to play with a station LX at the demo at UCSD and it seemed real peppy, I neglected to see how huch memory as in it though. Is this good news or bad news for NeXT? I don't see how it could be good news. NeXT does have the better UI and other things going for it but this is a fast cheap COLOR Sun workstation that is expandable and has taken advantage of the latest technologies. ISDN may be no big deal, but NeXT still dosen't have synchronous SCSI, let alone 10MB Sync SCSI. The 15" color is a bit small to a workstation user, but not to some one moving up from a PC. Given the recent history of NeXT ( overnight OD droping, NeXT Dimention problems, No current upgradability for the stations, no word on the future of the cube, the ADB upgrade policy ( i.e. sell your old box and buy a new one ), no low cost color for the cube, no synchronous SCSI, and I'm sure there is more ) all i can say is that given the choice now of a NeXT or SUN, I would go with the sun, and I bet a large amount of people will begin to purchase the new SUN's over the NeXT's. I for one am sad to see it. I still love my cube, even though It seems to be at a dead end. If the cube dosen't live on I WILL buy one of these SUNs to replace it, unless NeXT can get on the ball and make me believe that they will have the horsepower, and that I won't have to sell my whole system every time I want the new and improved feature, like ADB od sync SCSI. What does everybody else think? Any comments from NeXT? I didn't think so. Zeke -- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ = James "Zeke" Dehnert zeke@mode.css.gov = + SAIC Geophysical Div. Eschew Obfuscation + =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!darwin.sura.net!seismo!esosun!zeke From: zeke@esosun.UUCP (James Dehnert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New SUN's, Bad news for NeXT? Message-ID: <1059@esosun.UUCP> Date: 11 Nov 92 21:11:44 GMT Reply-To: zeke@esosun.css.gov.UUCP () Organization: Science Applications International Corp., San Diego Lines: 72