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Article #3703Re: Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow)
From: Stephen Anderson
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 14:53
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 14:53
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>>>>> On 2 Oct 92 18:10:14 GMT, alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) said: alex> come on, the software that came with your original cube alex> still works. they just dont give it to new customers. alex> Actually, this gradual unbundling is a good sign. Sorry Alex, but at least one thing that was unbundled doesn't still work: lisp. It was broken as of 2.0; Franz came up with a fix (which NeXT didn't ship to upgrade customers for a LoNG time after Franz had provided it. Now the upgraded version is broken in 3.0, with no indication of any solution in sight. Franz doesn't see enough $ in the NeXT market to have pursued the NeXT version of ACL (though from time to time they seem to revive it) and certainly aren't going to provide another version for free. And even those of us who paid for "maintenance" don't have a working ACL any more, or any real promise of one to come. If NeXT still considered lisp programming a part of what one did with their machines, I doubt this situation would be as it is. And that's one consequence (correlate?) of unbundling. I really can't agree that unbundling things like lisp and Sybase (let alone WriteNow) is a good sign. If I want bare hardware for which I can shell out separate money for any actual applications I want to run, I doubt I'll be buying anything from NeXT (I've got an ND I bought on the promise of what NeXT could do in the hardware field...) --Steve Anderson
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!umd5!umd5.umd.edu!anderson From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow) Message-ID: <ANDERSON.92Oct3105317@sapir.cog.jhu.edu> Date: 3 Oct 92 14:53:17 GMT References: <1992Sep24.035854.7939@ni.umd.edu> <1992Oct2.091430.11860@ITcorp.com> <60854@mimsy.umd.edu> Sender: news@umd5.umd.edu Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University Lines: 26 In-reply-to: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of 2 Oct 92 18:10:14 GMT