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Article #4258Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
From: Nicholas C. Weaver (The Weeniehe...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:02
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:02
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Why do people make the assumption that NeXT will actually put out a box based on the Intel chip? I doubt NeXT would make hardware that is in direct competition with the cut-rate clones. NeXT will always have it's flagship computers, and will probably keep churning out Moto 680x0 based machines in Freemont. The NeXTstep 486 will most likely be sold to those who bought the wrong computer in the first place, or to clone-makers who will package it preinstalled or something like that. There is NO reason for NeXT to produce 80x86 based machines! Sell the OS on them, yes, but build them? Yes, the moto CPUs are more expensive, and yes, they are generally better, but that cost difference is about $100/machine. It does get signifcant with large numbers, but then NeXT hasn't been involved in major price wars. If it was an Intel based computer, it might be a different story. It's hard to get away with niceties like DSP's, super power-supplies, CPU to printer connection etc... on an architecture where price is just about the ONLY thing that the buyer really looks at. A // machine would be a different story. (I could deal with a nice 3+ 486 machine from NeXT), because there isn't the real cuthroatness among the // machines, and they can be really nice. (I'm logging in through Soda, a 20 processor Sequent on the Berkeley Campus. 20 386's make for a really nice multi-user multi-purpose machine). Also, the r4000 is a nice chip, (64 bit processor and everthing, although it's pinouts make it look like a real porcupine), but is SGI letting it out? SGI owns Mips now, and so they effectively controll the supply of the r4000. Is there currently ANY non-sgi machine that uses the r4000? Furthermore, is the Alpha available to other vendors? The same goes for the POWER chip. And, as for SPARC, NeXT would do better with the same tactic as the Intel chips, an OS for those who bought the wrong machine. -Nick. p.s. When I say "wrong machine", I mean that the OS/Architecture combination doesn't really work for the job that they want it to do, but NeXTstep corrects that problem. -- Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!soda.berkeley.edu!nweaver From: nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver (The Weeniehead)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT. Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:02:25 GMT Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association Lines: 40 Message-ID: <1gbh7hINNn7v@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu