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Article #4412Re: Expert set fonts questions
From: Scott Byer
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:50
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:50
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Fredrik Nyman writes > Suppose you have a font that does not have ligatures, e.g. vanilla > Adobe Garamond. Exactly what happens when I install the "Expert > Set" which *does* contain ligatures? Is the expert set a separate > font as far as the NeXT is concerned, or will the Adobe Garamond > character set become "extended" with the glyphs defined in the > Expert Set font file? > Also, do all/most/some of the NeXT text processing support ligatures? > Will, for example, WriteNow, WP and FrameMaker print the /ffl glyph > if it exists in the chosen character set, or will they cop out and > print the glyphs f, f, and l? Note that most Adobe font programs do contain a basic set of ligatures. Not as extensive as the ones available in those families with expert sets, but a reasonable set. See the back of the RedBook for a list. Unfortunately, it doesn't work as smoothly as one would like. Seperate faces still stay seperate, and expert sets are separate. To get characters from the expert set, you still have to switch over to the font panel, click, click, and switch back. These are a good argument for why the font panel should have a font shelf (and why the font shelf fonts should be accessible with Cmd-Shft-T 1-9 - that is, make Cmd-Shft-T a prefix for getting a font from the shelf, and 1-9 be the position of the font on the shelf to get...) Maybe next year... Expert sets don't use the standard encoding; they have their own encoding, much like Symbol and Carta do. Ligature substitution definitions are held in the AFM files, and an application itself must do something to get the ligatures automatically. I'm not sure which programs do and don't. Once a document is done, it wouldn't take too much (although it is extra work people shouldn't have to do manually...) to do global search and replace for the ligatures. Currently, as far as I'm aware, no program will grab ligatures out of an expert set for substituting in a piece of text using the regular face. Personally, I don't see that this is such a complicated thing to do. Sigh. Someday we'll get typefaces treated like the interconnected databases that they really are... -- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and 1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!walter!att-out!pacbell.com!charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!nsc!decwrl!adobe!usenet From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Expert set fonts questions Message-ID: <1992Dec16.175017.17426@adobe.com> Date: 16 Dec 92 17:50:17 GMT References: <1992Dec16.020109.11507@socrates.umd.edu> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Lines: 53