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5 total messages Started by Martin David Frankel Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:25
Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
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Author: Martin David Frankel
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:25
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 15-Apr-92 Re: PixelMagician
ships !!! by Todd M. Swan@twins.lanl. 
>Am I the only one that thinks this is incredibly overpriced?   It's only a  
>viewer and converter right?  It would be worth that for an *editor*.  Not to
>mention the fact nearly all these conversions can be done with stuff that is
>free from the net.  The $99 student price seems like it should be the list  
>price.
> 
>Just my $.02...
> 
>Todd

What makes this even more ironic is that the free converters that Todd
is referring to happen to provide the basic functionality for of
PixelMagician.
They are from the PBMPLUS package written by Jeff Posansker.
So PixelMagician is, at $299, basically a NeXTstep app wrapper for PBMPLUS.

Disclaimer:  I don't have access to my computer at the moment to check
all of this (dead keyboard).  It is what I remember from looking at the
demo of PixelMagician and at PBMPLUS.  I probably at the very least
misspelled Jeff's name.  But this I am quite sure of:  the basic modules
used by PixelMagician are from the public domain.

     -- Martin
Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
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Author: Joseph Chin
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:49
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In article <odvBRui00WBK49xdYr@andrew.cmu.edu> mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu  
(Martin David Frankel) writes:
> ...
> So PixelMagician is, at $299, basically a NeXTstep app wrapper for
> PBMPLUS.
> ...

That may very well be the case. But lets not forget that for $299, you get  
a fairly nice GUI front end (PBMPLUS is something only a commandline  
hacker would love :-) which makes the software very easy to use, and you  
also get a commitment by Bacchus to support the product. For many, that is  
not a high price to pay for something that will help them get works done  
without having to learn a bunch a command line parameters (or having to  
work from the command line for that matter).

If you don't like the price and you are happy with PBMPLUS, no one is  
forcing you to pay $299 for a copy of PixelMagician.

Joe

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation whatsoever with Bacchus. I am not even a  
customer (yet). However, I have tried the PixelMagician demo and chatted  
with the nice people from Bacchus at NeXTworld Expo '92.
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Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
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Author: J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:32
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Also, I was told by someone at NeXT as well as reading on this group
that ImageViewer (an app that does similar things in terms of
converting from one picture type to another) will be made obsolete by
v3.0 NeXTstep.

If this is so, why should anyone get this program if they're also
upgrading to 3.0?
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail not accepted
Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
#1797
Author: Ali Ozer
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:46
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In article <1992Apr16.063210.4999@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>Also, I was told by someone at NeXT as well as reading on this group
>that ImageViewer (an app that does similar things in terms of
>converting from one picture type to another) will be made obsolete by
>v3.0 NeXTstep.
>If this is so, why should anyone get this program if they're also
>upgrading to 3.0?

3.0 does not come with any image filters. 3.0 comes with the ability to
run filters to automatically convert file types when importing. In fact,
because of this feature, I think the market for applications like
PixelMagician will even be bigger. (I should add that I haven't had the
chance to play with PixelMagician yet...)

Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
Re: PixelMagician ships !!!
#1799
Author: Tyler S Gingrich
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:53
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In article <3579@rosie.NeXT.COM> aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.063210.4999@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>Also, I was told by someone at NeXT as well as reading on this group
>>that ImageViewer (an app that does similar things in terms of
>>converting from one picture type to another) will be made obsolete by
>>v3.0 NeXTstep.
>>If this is so, why should anyone get this program if they're also
>>upgrading to 3.0?
>
>3.0 does not come with any image filters. 3.0 comes with the ability to
>run filters to automatically convert file types when importing. In fact,
>because of this feature, I think the market for applications like
>PixelMagician will even be bigger. (I should add that I haven't had the
>chance to play with PixelMagician yet...)
>

Hopefully, the guys from Baccus will unbundle their converters & sell them as
3.0 filters.  In addition to selling the whole PixelMagician package.

---
Tyler Gingrich				(614)292-7211
tyler+@osu.edu     
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