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In article <1992Jul21.144606.29752@athena.mit.edu>
ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari) writes:

>Sherwood raises a lot of interesting points in his post.  I
>certainly have felt similar frustrations myself.  It just
>hurts to see our EquationBuilder app used as an example
>(ouch)
>[...]

>But there is still the larger question of whether people
>prefer crippled demos that run indefinitely, or fully
>functional demos that die after some fixed time.  The jury
>seems to still be out on this one.  It is just as easy for
>us to do either.  It depends on what the community prefers.
>(Perhaps both?)

>Regardless, if someone feels that they need more time to
>evaluate our app, just drop us a note and we will do our
>best to be accommodating.

Since I have no direct experience with this particular
product, I have no axe to grind, either way.  What I liked,
however, was that you seem to be paying close attention and
to have an open, flexible attitude towards addressing the
actual concerns of actual people.  Though you're not the
only developers who might do so, it's a refreshing change of
attitude after the insistent "it's free so you get screwed"
point of view Scott is trying to argue for.

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I agree with Sherwood's (and Jess') complaint of the "two-minute demo". Here's
another current data point.

Flame on--

InstantTeX also supports the two-minute demo movement. (Who thought this up
anyway--I can't even load TeX and type \relax in two minutes!-) I am (was?)
really interested in this product since I work a lot with TeX, but how much
TeXing can you do in two minutes. Look at its Preference panel--it should 
take awhile just to figure all the options there (from what little I got to 
see, it did look interesting.)

Now for the good part--I clicked on help and InstantTeX passes its help(.dvi)
file to TeXView (NOTE: It installs its own Beta version(2.1) of TeXview!!!)
which in my rush I decided to print out. DO NOT DO THIS!!!! Since I didn't 
notice that the "Custom Resolution" switch was ON (The InstantTeX version
of TeXview came this way, I checked)
my NeXT began generating fonts at 1270 dpi (also using up about 10 M of
needed space in the process.)

Fixes--(1) Make sure the CR switch is off,

OR     (2) Don't use the TeXview supplied by InstantTeX

OR     (3) Forget about the InstantTeX demo so you won't waste the 
	   ENTIRE F****** afternoon for a two minute demo!!!!!!!

Flame off (but temper still up).

Charlie



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I've personally been pleased with the way that Ralph Z. at Pinnacle
has managed to get updates for Presto out by using a registration
"key" which allows us to download the demos via ftp and then use
the key to turn them into completely functional programs. I think that
he's done his firm a real credit by putting an almost completely 
functional program into the hands of potential customers *AND* getting
updates to us out in the field in a timely way.
--
All the more beautiful in the concert hall with people in their fine clothes and
yourself in the same place as the original music. The rest, I imagine, must be 
like the sound of a radio orchestra in the 1940s, Europe fiddling beneath the 
darkness and abandoned capital cities leaning into the sound as it becomes noise

In article <1634@heurikon.heurikon.com> gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor) writes:
>I've personally been pleased with the way that Ralph Z. at Pinnacle
>has managed to get updates for Presto out by using a registration
>"key" which allows us to download the demos via ftp and then use
>the key to turn them into completely functional programs. I think that
>he's done his firm a real credit by putting an almost completely 
>functional program into the hands of potential customers *AND* getting
>updates to us out in the field in a timely way.

Not to mention that Presto is a really great program.  Even if you're
not into MIDI *at all*, I highly recommend checking out what this
app can do.  The user interface is top notch -- definitely NeXTSTEP
through and through.

Even if you're a casual user who occasionally fires up ScorePlayer
to play the stuff in /NextLibrary/Music, Presto is a must-have.

Stuart (just an impressed user)