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Started by Walter C. Daugherity
Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:22
Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Walter C. Daugherity
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:22
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:22
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SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript today at the X Conference in Boston. Once again NeXT leads the way! Quoting Sun: SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X Window System. Since 1989, Sun has supported MIT's X protocol in its OpenWindows product. SunSoft will continue its commitment to MIT's X Window system by shipping an OpenWindows product based on the MIT source code. The last release of Solaris featuring X11/NeWS and TNT will ship in mid 1993. Subsequent releases of Solaris will incorporate MIT's X11R5 coupled with Adobe Display PostScript Level 2 as well as other imaging and geometry libraries. OLIT IMPROVEMENTS The mid 1993 release of Solaris will feature major improvements in the OPEN LOOK Intrinsics Toolkit (OLIT) based on X11R5 intrinsics. A candidate for IEEE standardization, you can easily port applications developed with OLIT to European and Asian versions. You can dynamically customize OLIT applications at runtime, allowing better control of fonts and colors. Sporting the same look and feel of applications developed with SunSoft's popular XView toolkit, OLIT is an intrinsics- based alternative. WHY A NEW DIRECTION? Starting in 1993, OpenWindows will use MIT's source code as its foundation. Though the switch from an X11/NeWS based server to an X11R5 server will impact applications which depend on NeWS technology, SunSoft believes developers and users will reap major benefits. Improvements in server quality and performance, as well as a more standard X implementation will benefit all Solaris users. All programs written using the X protocol and libraries will run on the new X11R5-based server. In addition, SunSoft will be standardizing on ddx for the writing of graphics frame buffer device drivers. This, along with the adoption of a standard Xinput extension mechanism, will lower the cost of bringing hardware peripherals to market. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS --------------------- Q. What versions of Solaris will this new OpenWindows server run on? When will this new server ship? A. This server will run on Solaris 2.x systems only. Q. What about XView? A. SunSoft recognizes that many of our customers use the XView toolkit. You do not need to port applications from XView to OLIT. You can maintain your present applications on XView until you feel comfortable moving to an object environment or you need functionality not available on XView. Q. Will all the applications that now run on X11/NeWS work on this new window system? Will Drag and Drop and ToolTalk work? A. If an application conforms to X protocol, it will run. As an example, Deskset (except PageView which uses NeWS) runs on MIT's X11R5 with no code change. Applications using the ICCCM Drag and Drop protocol and ToolTalk will also work. Unfortunately, applications using the NeWS Toolkit (TNT) or NeWS imaging will not be supported. Applications using NeWS imaging must be ported to Display PostScript. We recommend that applications using TNT be ported to OLIT. Q. How long will X11/NeWS and TNT be supported? A. Support for X11/NeWS and TNT will continue to be available. Source code for the latest release of OpenWindows will also be available at a reasonable price. Q. What is DPS? A. The Display PostScript System provides a device- independent imaging model for displaying information on the screen. By allowing you to use PostScript to display text, graphics, and sampled images, it frees you from display-specific details such as screen resolution and the number of available colors. In September 1992, SunSoft entered into a long-term partnership with Adobe Systems to provide Solaris users with the Display PostScript System. SunSoft will feature DPS as an integral part of Solaris. Q. Is DPS a standard? A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS. Q. What do you mean by compatibility? A. All X applications written for Solaris which conform to the X protocol should run with the X11R5 server. Developers should be able to leverage one source base for multiple UNIX platforms. Q. What about NeWSprint? A. NeWSprint will continue to be an integral part of Sun's printing solution. The windows direction has no adverse impact on NeWSprint. In a separate agreement with Adobe, SunPics has licensed Adobe technology for inclusion into future printing and imaging products. NeWSprint, an environment of many modules, enables customers to print on heterogenous networks. One of the modules will be Adobe's PostScript imager or RIP which will be shared with SunSoft's Solaris OpenWindows window system. This will enrich NeWSprint by enhancing the RIP module with industry-standard Adobe PostScript. Q. How much better is performance? A. End users will see immediate improvements in server bootup time, application launch speed, and window snap. Q. Is product quality that much better? A. We believe OWV3 is a high-quality product. By moving to an MIT source base we will be able to deliver an even higher quality product. MIT has issued many public patches since the release of R5, containing over 1,300 bug fixes. Patches are issued every few weeks. Moving to the MIT X source base allows SunSoft to leverage all engineers working on X Window Systems throughout the world. SunSoft can also be more proactive in donating work to the X community at large. Q. You say you are based on standards? Is OLIT a standard? A. Not yet, though OLIT is now the basis of a IEEE working group P1295.2 the Open Toolkit Environment (OTKE). OTKE is standards work which has been proposed in the IEEE Computer Society. This work will establish a toolkit standard based on OPEN LOOK. -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Eric M Hermanson
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:43
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In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript
>today at the X Conference in Boston. Once again NeXT leads the way!
>
>Quoting Sun:
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>SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS
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>SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe
>Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS)
>for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify
>SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our
>partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X
>Window System.
>
>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>
>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast
>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform
>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What about NeXT?? Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon. Boy are they ever feeling the heat!
>--
>Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Eric
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Gary Lang
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:54
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In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes: >In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes: >>SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript >>today at the X Conference in Boston. Once again NeXT leads the way! >> >>Quoting Sun: >> >> >> >>SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS >> >>SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe >>Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) >>for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify >>SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our >>partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X >>Window System. >> > >>Q. Is DPS a standard? >> >>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast >>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform >>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >What about NeXT?? Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they >were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon. Boy are they ever feeling the heat! > > >>-- >>Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu > >Eric > > Well, they were talking about major UNIX vendors and not technical leaders. Since this is based on market share, they were probably right to leave NeXT off the list. If they were talking about technical leaders, then they wouldn't have anything to write about because neither Sun nor most of the companies on that list have done anything to make UNIX as useful as it is on the NeXT. As Glenn Reid likes to say, just my opinion, and your mileage may vary. -g
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Yamanari
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:23
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:23
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In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
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>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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>What about NeXT?? Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
>were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon. Boy are they ever feeling the heat!
No conspiracy, probably. NeXT is not a major UNIX platform
vendor in the same league (i.e., machines shipped) as the others
named. Data General, NeXT and so on are all covered by "etc."
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>
>>--
>>Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>
>Eric
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Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Scott Hess
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:29
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In article <C1D9BE.AB7@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: >I guess NeXT does not use DPS. > >I guess they didn't pioneer it either. From what I gather >it was NeXT's idea in the first place to use PostScript on >the display. Everyone else thought that PostScript was too >slow for an interactive display. Ever heard of NeWS? Which runs on Suns? It's not _Adobe_ PostScript, but it is PostScript nonetheless. Especially when looking over the client library calls, it looks more like DPS than not. For instance, psh, which many NeXT users are familiar with, was apparently one of the first NeWS programs available. The server was multi-threaded, with separate contexts. It had garbage collection. You could connect over the network. It had it's own version of pswrap, cps, which converted .cps files into .c files. Sun has a NeWSPrinter (sp?) which uses NeWS to rasterize and dumb printing engine to do the actual printing. In fact, it even used object-oriented stuff within the server, something the NeXT doesn't do. It also tended to put much more functionality in the server via postscript routines, whereas NeXT puts more emphasis on the client side (these both have advantages and disadvantages, of course). And there are probably more NeWS programs out there than NeXT programs. I use past tense above, because NeWS is apparently at an end. Sun will still support it, but it is being supplanted by DPS. [Disclaimer: I found out most of what I know about NeWS _after_ having worked on the NeXT for a couple years. So, perhaps I was seeing some similarities that weren't really there. But I do think that NeWS was written with the DPS documentation in mind :-).] Later, -- scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <To the BatCube, Robin> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Darcy BROCKBANK
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:18
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In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes: >Q. Is DPS a standard? > >A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast >becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform >vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, >support DPS. I guess NeXT does not use DPS. I guess they didn't pioneer it either. From what I gather it was NeXT's idea in the first place to use PostScript on the display. Everyone else thought that PostScript was too slow for an interactive display. Oh, forgot this was Sun talking... They're almost as bad as Iraqi ambassadors :-). - db
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Carl Edman
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:48
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:48
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In article <1993Jan24.002306.20388@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
[article text mostly deleted]
>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What about NeXT?? Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
>were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon. Boy are they ever feeling the heat!
No conspiracy, probably. NeXT is not a major UNIX platform
vendor in the same league (i.e., machines shipped) as the others
named. Data General, NeXT and so on are all covered by "etc."
That is just not so. According to the most recent statistics which
I've seen there are three major workstation vendors (Sun, HP and DEC,
in that order) which are followed by a pack of minor vendors lead in
unit sales by NeXT. Notice that this makes NeXT bigger than three of
the four vendors listed.
Carl Edman
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: John G Shirlaw
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:06
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In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu>, daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) writes: |> SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript |> today at the X Conference in Boston. Once again NeXT leads the way! |> |> Quoting Sun: |> |> |> |> SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS |> |> SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe |> Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) |> for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify |> SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our |> partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X |> Window System. |> |> Since 1989, Sun has supported MIT's X protocol in its |> OpenWindows product. SunSoft will continue its commitment to |> MIT's X Window system by shipping an OpenWindows product |> based on the MIT source code. The last release of Solaris |> featuring X11/NeWS and TNT will ship in mid 1993. Subsequent |> releases of Solaris will incorporate MIT's X11R5 coupled |> with Adobe Display PostScript Level 2 as well as other |> imaging and geometry libraries. |> ( stuff deleted) |> |> -- |> Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu |> Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher |> College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS |> ---Not an official document of Texas A&M--- Does this mean that we will be able to use a sun as a terminal for NeXTStep... as they both will use DPS as a windowing model or am I just being simple minded? john.
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Kevin D. Baranski-Walker
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:09
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:09
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In article <SCOTT.93Jan24152924@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes: > >Ever heard of NeWS? Which runs on Suns? It's not _Adobe_ PostScript, >but it is PostScript nonetheless. Especially when looking over the >client library calls, it looks more like DPS than not. For instance, ... I'm somone has a memory that spans beyond the past year :-) NeWS was quite powerful inasmuch as it was first running on the Sun 3/60 circa 1986 at a fairly respectable performance level. >I use past tense above, because NeWS is apparently at an end. Sun >will still support it, but it is being supplanted by DPS. SGI used a variant of NeWS as thier IRIX windowing system up until late 1991, pre IRIX 4.0. I was actually saddened to see it's inevitable demise. (The X community finally got shaped windows in R5, but of coarse NeWS had it intrinsically from day one.) >[Disclaimer: I found out most of what I know about NeWS _after_ having >worked on the NeXT for a couple years. So, perhaps I was seeing some >similarities that weren't really there. But I do think that NeWS was >written with the DPS documentation in mind :-).] > >Later, >-- >scott hess <shess@ssesco.com> <To the BatCube, Robin> >12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime! Better late than never Scott. There are a couple of NeWS books under the Sun titles that are still worth reading. - kevin -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kevin D. Baranski-Walker | "A Millisecond is a Terrible Thing to Waste"| | ComTech Labs, Inc. | Fax: (415) 813-4505 | | Palo Alto, Ca. | InterNet: kevin@Comtech.Com |
NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
Author: John Kheit
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:49
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Unfortunately, I started this project a little too late to give the voters a really long time to think about and vote for the choice products of 1992. However, next year the organization of the NUCA will be better. Also I'm working on getting the trophies finished. I hope to have them out to all the winners ASAP. Drum roll... And the winners are... Well, the people have spoken and the best NeXTSTEP product of 1992 is NeXTSTEP 3.0. Kudos to NeXT for putting out a really nice product The really hot products this year were NeXTSTEP 3.0, Virtuoso, DataPhile and the Zyxel modem. These products received the greatest number of votes in multiple categories. NeXT did very well; they won in the Overall Product of the Year, Software Development, Software Wordprocessing (actually the most common response to this category was "What wordprocessor?"), Software Utility, Hardware Display, Hardware Mass Storage, Hardware Printing/Output, Hardware Video, Hardware Other, and Overall Best Hardware categories. Altsys' Virtuoso was the single best product in that it won in the Software Desk Top Publishing, Software Graphics and Overall Best Software categories. Congratulations to all of the winners! (The complete results may be found on the orst and/or purdue FTP site in the submissions directory--if I can get it up there!) Overall Product of the Year_________________________________ 1. NeXTSTEP 3.0 2. Virtuoso 3. Executor 4. Create 4. InstantTeX 4. Presto Others mentioned (in alphabetical order) Concurrence Cub'X Window Garfinkell-Mahoney Book gcc NeXTTeX+TeXView+dvips by Tom Rokicki PasteUp QuickStart SCREENCAST Stuart Software___________________________________________________ Audio------------------------------------------------------ 1. Presto 2. NeXT CDPlayer 2. Simon Says Others Mentioned Eric Clapton 'Unplugged' EdSnd2 GISO3.0.app SoundWorks Communications--------------------------------------------- 1. NXFax 2. SLIP, Louis Mamakos 3. MicroPhone Pro 4. Marble Teleconnect 4. NewsGrazer 4. tip Others Mentioned Kermit MailHelper NeXTMail DataBase--------------------------------------------------- 1. DataPhile 2. DBInspector 2. DBKit 2 Others Mentioned IXKit Developer-------------------------------------------------- 1. NeXTstep 3.0 2. ProjectBuilder Others Mentioned AppKit Bill Tschumy CheckItOut gcc Gnu Obj-C runtime HeaderViewer InterfaceBuilder RightBrain Stuart SuperDebugger Dest Top Publishing---------------------------------------- 1. Virtuoso 2. PastUp 3. Create 3. Diagram Others Mentioned Adobe Illustrator Concurrence FrameMaker NeXTTeX RedMark Game------------------------------------------------------- 1. AcChen 2. Oxyd 3. Hunter 3. PacMan 3. Void Others Mentioned CyberZone GoldDigger Infocom Z-Code Player Lemmings MineHunter Graphic---------------------------------------------------- 1. Virtuoso 2. Diagram 2. Adobe Illustrator Others Mentioned 3D Reality Intuitiv 3D engine beta nPoint's 3D app TIFFany.app MultiMedia------------------------------------------------- 1. Concurrence 2. CraftMan Others Mentioned MediaView NeXTMail Presto Spreadsheet------------------------------------------------ 1. Improv 2. Mesa Others Mentioned Excel Scientific------------------------------------------------- 1. Mathematica 2. EquationBuilder Wordprocessing--------------------------------------------- 1. Edit 2. InstantTeX 2. NeXTTeX+TeXView+dvips by Tom Rokicki 4. WriteNow 2 Others Mentioned Emacs FrameMaker TeXView Word Utility---------------------------------------------------- 1. DarkForest 1. Backspace 1. Engage 4. Opener Others Mentioned AreaCode Cub'X Window DefaultManager Edit Executor MetroTools NFSManager Perl Poste QuickStart Stuart Virtuoso Video------------------------------------------------------ 1. Movie Others Mentioned NeXTtv Other------------------------------------------------------ 1. Big Green CD 1. Executor 1. monoLib CD ROM 1. SBook Others Mentioned IconBuilder PencilMeIn SciPlot SCREENCAST SortingInAction Overall Software Product of the Year_______________________ 1. Virtuoso 2. NeXTSTEP 3.0 3. InstantTeX 3. NeXTTeX+TeXView+dvips by Tom Rokicki 3. Presto Others Mentioned Concurrence Create Cub'X Window DataPhile Diagram Engage EquationBuilder gcc NewsGrazer PasteUp QuickStart SBook SCREENCAST Hadware____________________________________________________ Audio------------------------------------------------------ 1. Digital Ears Others Mentioned Infinity Kappa series speakers Communications--------------------------------------------- 1. ZyXEL U-1496E 2. Hayes ISDN Extender Others Mentioned Supra 14.4 fax/data modem Whole Internet User's Guide by E. Kroll Display---------------------------------------------------- 1. NeXT ADB 17" 2. NeXT ADB 21" Others Mentioned E-machines 16" Monitor Ikegami 20" Trinitron NEC 5FG monitor Graphic Input---------------------------------------------- 1. HSD Scan-X Color 2. Wacom Graphics Tablet Others Mentioned Color Digital Eye NeXT ADB Keyboard & Mouse Mass Storage----------------------------------------------- 1. NeXT CD ROM Drive 2. NeXT Optical Drive Others Mentioned Hewlett-Packard HP-35480A DAT tape drive 128MO drive HP-DAT drive (8GB) SyQuest 88Mb Drive Archive Python DAT Drive Prining/Output--------------------------------------------- 1. NeXT Color Printer 2. NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer Others Mentioned HP4 & 4M Video------------------------------------------------------- 1. Next Dimension Other------------------------------------------------------- 1. NeXT ADB Keyboard & Mouse 4 Others Mentioned ISDN extender MIDI link NeXTwatch NeXT Screwdriver Ninja Risc Workstation Overall Hardware Product of the Year_______________________ 1. NeXTStation Color Turbo 2. ZyXEL U-1496E 3. NeXT ADB Keyboard & Mouse Others Mentioned Hayes ISDN Extender HP-35480A DAT tape drive HP-DAT drive (8GB) HP- PA RISC Workstations MIDI link NeXT CD ROM Drive Next Dimension -- NeXT Campus Consultant---Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey |my %^) John Kheit/monoChrome | Opinions expressed represent me only! |fried %-) 173 Westgate Drive | Audix Voice Mail# (415) 366-0900 X5512 |brain %>) Edison, NJ 08820-1163 | kheit@hangout.rutgers.edu,szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Re: NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
Author: John Kheit
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:59
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BTW, I forgot to mention that the winners' .eps logos may also be picked up from the purdue archive site as part of the NUCA.compressed bundle in the submissions directory. later, John
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Gary Lang
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:03
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" It's not _Adobe_ PostScript, but it is PostScript nonetheless. Especially when looking over the " If it's not Adobe, it's not really PostScript. Ask any print shop... -g
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: Sami Shaio
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:19
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In article <C1D9BE.AB7@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: >In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes: > >>Q. Is DPS a standard? >> >>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast >>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform >>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, >>support DPS. > >I guess NeXT does not use DPS. > >I guess they didn't pioneer it either. From what I gather >it was NeXT's idea in the first place to use PostScript on >the display. Everyone else thought that PostScript was too >slow for an interactive display. > >Oh, forgot this was Sun talking... They're almost as bad as >Iraqi ambassadors :-). > > >- db Sun implemented the NeWS window system which was rendering PostScript to the screen long before DPS. NeWS also had a more complete set of input primitives than DPS does. In fact, NeWS was also the first use of annoying mixed capitals names that I'm aware of. Guess we'll take the blame for that one. --sami :) no flames intended but just setting the record straight...
Re: NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
Author: Robert Davis
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:15
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In article <Jan.25.20.49.06.1993.22671@gandalf.rutgers.edu> szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >Infocom Z-Code Player What and where is this? Rob -- | Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu | "Look up, Hannah. Look up." NeXT Mail accepted --
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Author: David Lemke
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:31
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In article <1jur0dINNgr2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes: |> |> In article <C1D9BE.AB7@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: |> >In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes: |> |> >>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast |> >>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform |> >>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, |> >>support DPS. |> |> >I guess NeXT does not use DPS. |> |> NeXT has probably sold at least as many Unix units (but not $$) as both SGI and |> IBM. Does NCD sell Unix machines or just X terminals? Not including NeXT in |> this list is a political decision, I'm sure. NCD sells just X display stations. all conspiracy theories aside, i assume the reason NeXT was left off was because they don't ship DPS/X, which the rest of the list does (or will). |> |> Art Isbell Cubic Solutions |> NeXT Registered Developer #745 NeXT software development and consulting |> NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154 |> USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515 -- Dave Lemke lemke@ncd.com Network Computing Devices, Inc.
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