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Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4612
Author: Walter C. Daugherity
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:22
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SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript
today at the X Conference in Boston.  Once again NeXT leads the way!

Quoting Sun:



SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS

SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe 
Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) 
for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify 
SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our 
partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X 
Window System. 

Since 1989, Sun has supported MIT's X protocol in its 
OpenWindows product. SunSoft will continue its commitment to 
MIT's X Window system by shipping an OpenWindows product 
based on the MIT source code. The last release of Solaris 
featuring X11/NeWS and TNT will ship in mid 1993. Subsequent 
releases of Solaris will incorporate MIT's X11R5 coupled 
with Adobe Display PostScript Level 2 as well as other 
imaging and geometry libraries. 

OLIT IMPROVEMENTS

The mid 1993 release of Solaris will feature major 
improvements in the OPEN LOOK Intrinsics Toolkit (OLIT) 
based on X11R5 intrinsics. A candidate for IEEE 
standardization, you can easily port applications 
developed with OLIT to European and Asian versions. You 
can dynamically customize OLIT applications at runtime, 
allowing better control of fonts and colors. Sporting the 
same look and feel of applications developed with 
SunSoft's popular XView toolkit, OLIT is an intrinsics-
based alternative.

WHY A NEW DIRECTION?

Starting in 1993, OpenWindows will use MIT's source code as 
its foundation. Though the switch from an X11/NeWS based 
server to an X11R5 server will impact applications which 
depend on NeWS technology, SunSoft believes developers and 
users will reap major benefits. Improvements in server 
quality and performance, as well as a more standard X 
implementation will benefit all Solaris users. All programs 
written using the X protocol and libraries will run on 
the new X11R5-based server. In addition, SunSoft will be 
standardizing on ddx for the writing of graphics frame 
buffer device drivers. This, along with the adoption of 
a standard Xinput extension mechanism, will lower the 
cost of bringing hardware peripherals to market.


QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ---------------------

Q. What versions of Solaris will this new OpenWindows 
server run on? When will this new server ship?

A. This server will run on Solaris 2.x systems only. 


Q. What about XView?

A. SunSoft recognizes that many of our customers use the 
XView toolkit. You do not need to port applications from 
XView to OLIT. You can maintain your present applications 
on XView until you feel comfortable moving to an object 
environment or you need functionality not available on 
XView.

Q. Will all the applications that now run on X11/NeWS work 
on this new window system? Will Drag and Drop and ToolTalk 
work?

A. If an application conforms to X protocol, it will run. As 
an example, Deskset (except PageView which uses NeWS) runs 
on MIT's X11R5 with no code change. Applications using the 
ICCCM Drag and Drop protocol and ToolTalk will also work.

Unfortunately, applications using the NeWS Toolkit (TNT) or 
NeWS imaging will not be supported. Applications using NeWS 
imaging must be ported to Display PostScript. We recommend 
that applications using TNT be ported to OLIT.

Q. How long will X11/NeWS and TNT be supported?

A. Support for X11/NeWS and TNT will continue to be 
available. Source code for the latest release of 
OpenWindows will also be available at a reasonable price.

Q. What is DPS?

A. The Display PostScript System provides a device-
independent imaging model for displaying information on 
the screen. By allowing you to use PostScript to display 
text, graphics, and sampled images, it frees you from 
display-specific details such as screen resolution and the 
number of available colors.

In September 1992, SunSoft entered into a long-term 
partnership with Adobe Systems to provide Solaris users with 
the Display PostScript System. SunSoft will feature DPS as 
an integral part of Solaris.

Q. Is DPS a standard?

A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, 
support DPS.

Q. What do you mean by compatibility? 

A. All X applications written for Solaris which conform 
to the X protocol should run with the X11R5 server. 
Developers should be able to leverage one source base for 
multiple UNIX platforms.

Q. What about NeWSprint?

A. NeWSprint will continue to be an integral part of
Sun's printing solution.  The windows direction has 
no adverse impact on NeWSprint. In a separate agreement 
with Adobe, SunPics has licensed Adobe technology for 
inclusion into future printing and imaging products.
NeWSprint, an environment of many modules, enables 
customers to print on heterogenous networks.  One of 
the modules will be Adobe's PostScript imager or RIP 
which will be shared with SunSoft's Solaris OpenWindows 
window system.  This will enrich NeWSprint by enhancing the
RIP module with industry-standard Adobe PostScript.

Q. How much better is performance?

A. End users will see immediate improvements in server 
bootup time, application launch speed, and window snap. 

Q. Is product quality that much better?

A. We believe OWV3 is a high-quality product. By moving 
to an MIT source base we will be able to deliver an even 
higher quality product. MIT has issued many public 
patches since the release of R5, containing over 1,300 
bug fixes. Patches are issued every few weeks. Moving to 
the MIT X source base allows SunSoft to leverage all 
engineers working on X Window Systems throughout the 
world. SunSoft can also be more proactive in donating 
work to the X community at large.

Q. You say you are based on standards? Is OLIT a standard?

A. Not yet, though OLIT is now the basis of a IEEE working 
group P1295.2 the Open Toolkit Environment (OTKE). OTKE 
is standards work which has been proposed in the IEEE 
Computer Society. This work will establish a toolkit 
standard based on OPEN LOOK.


--
Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Texas A & M University			uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112		BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
	---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4632
Author: Eric M Hermanson
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:43
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In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript
>today at the X Conference in Boston.  Once again NeXT leads the way!
>
>Quoting Sun:
>
>
>
>SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS
>
>SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe 
>Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) 
>for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify 
>SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our 
>partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X 
>Window System. 
>

>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>
>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!


>--
>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu

Eric
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4634
Author: Gary Lang
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:54
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In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>>SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript
>>today at the X Conference in Boston.  Once again NeXT leads the way!
>>
>>Quoting Sun:
>>
>>
>>
>>SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS
>>
>>SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe 
>>Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) 
>>for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify 
>>SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our 
>>partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X 
>>Window System. 
>>
>
>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
>were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!
>
>
>>--
>>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>
>Eric
>
>

Well, they were talking about major UNIX vendors and not
technical leaders. Since this is based on market share, 
they were probably right to leave NeXT off the list. If they
were talking about technical leaders, then they wouldn't have
anything to write about because neither Sun nor most of the
companies on that list have done anything to make UNIX
as useful as it is on the NeXT. 


As Glenn Reid likes to say, just my opinion, and your
mileage may vary.

-g
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4644
Author: Yamanari
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:23
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In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
	[article text mostly deleted]

>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
>were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!


	No conspiracy, probably.  NeXT is not a major UNIX platform 
	vendor in the same league (i.e., machines shipped) as the others
	named.  Data General, NeXT and so on are all covered by "etc."

>
>
>>--
>>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>
>Eric
>
>


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Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4653
Author: Scott Hess
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:29
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In article <C1D9BE.AB7@cs.mcgill.ca>
	samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>I guess NeXT does not use DPS. 
>
>I guess they didn't pioneer it either. From what I gather
>it was NeXT's idea in the first place to use PostScript on
>the display. Everyone else thought that PostScript was too
>slow for an interactive display.

Ever heard of NeWS?  Which runs on Suns?  It's not _Adobe_ PostScript,
but it is PostScript nonetheless.  Especially when looking over the
client library calls, it looks more like DPS than not.  For instance,
psh, which many NeXT users are familiar with, was apparently one of
the first NeWS programs available.  The server was multi-threaded,
with separate contexts.  It had garbage collection.  You could connect
over the network.  It had it's own version of pswrap, cps, which
converted .cps files into .c files.  Sun has a NeWSPrinter (sp?) which
uses NeWS to rasterize and dumb printing engine to do the actual
printing.  In fact, it even used object-oriented stuff within the
server, something the NeXT doesn't do.  It also tended to put much
more functionality in the server via postscript routines, whereas NeXT
puts more emphasis on the client side (these both have advantages and
disadvantages, of course).  And there are probably more NeWS programs
out there than NeXT programs.

I use past tense above, because NeWS is apparently at an end.  Sun
will still support it, but it is being supplanted by DPS.

[Disclaimer: I found out most of what I know about NeWS _after_ having
worked on the NeXT for a couple years.  So, perhaps I was seeing some
similarities that weren't really there.  But I do think that NeWS was
written with the DPS documentation in mind :-).]

Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com>                        <To the BatCube, Robin>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4649
Author: Darcy BROCKBANK
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:18
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In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:

>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>
>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, 
>support DPS.

I guess NeXT does not use DPS. 

I guess they didn't pioneer it either. From what I gather
it was NeXT's idea in the first place to use PostScript on
the display. Everyone else thought that PostScript was too
slow for an interactive display.

Oh, forgot this was Sun talking... They're almost as bad as
Iraqi ambassadors :-).


- db
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4654
Author: Carl Edman
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:48
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In article <1993Jan24.002306.20388@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
   In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
   >In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
           [article text mostly deleted]

   >>Q. Is DPS a standard?
   >>
   >>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
   >>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
   >>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
   >         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   >
   >What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
   >were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!


           No conspiracy, probably.  NeXT is not a major UNIX platform 
           vendor in the same league (i.e., machines shipped) as the others
           named.  Data General, NeXT and so on are all covered by "etc."

That is just not so. According to the most recent statistics which
I've seen there are three major workstation vendors (Sun, HP and DEC,
in that order) which are followed by a pack of minor vendors lead in
unit sales by NeXT. Notice that this makes NeXT bigger than three of
the four vendors listed.

        Carl Edman
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4663
Author: John G Shirlaw
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:06
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In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu>, daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) writes:
|> SunSoft is announcing their intention to use Display PostScript
|> today at the X Conference in Boston.  Once again NeXT leads the way!
|> 
|> Quoting Sun:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> SUNSOFT'S WINDOWS DIRECTIONS
|> 
|> SunSoft recently entered into an agreement with Adobe 
|> Systems to license the Display PostScript System (DPS) 
|> for Solaris. This message is intended to clarify 
|> SunSoft's OpenWindows directions in light of our 
|> partnership with Adobe and our commitment to MIT's X 
|> Window System. 
|> 
|> Since 1989, Sun has supported MIT's X protocol in its 
|> OpenWindows product. SunSoft will continue its commitment to 
|> MIT's X Window system by shipping an OpenWindows product 
|> based on the MIT source code. The last release of Solaris 
|> featuring X11/NeWS and TNT will ship in mid 1993. Subsequent 
|> releases of Solaris will incorporate MIT's X11R5 coupled 
|> with Adobe Display PostScript Level 2 as well as other 
|> imaging and geometry libraries. 
|> 
   ( stuff deleted)
|> 
|> --
|> Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
|> Texas A & M University			uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
|> College Station, TX 77843-3112		BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
|> 	---Not an official document of Texas A&M---

Does this mean that we will be able to use a sun as a terminal for NeXTStep... as
they both will use DPS as a windowing model or am I just being simple minded?

john.
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4674
Author: Kevin D. Baranski-Walker
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:09
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In article <SCOTT.93Jan24152924@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
>
>Ever heard of NeWS?  Which runs on Suns?  It's not _Adobe_ PostScript,
>but it is PostScript nonetheless.  Especially when looking over the
>client library calls, it looks more like DPS than not.  For instance, ...

I'm somone has a memory that spans beyond the past year :-)  NeWS was
quite powerful inasmuch as it was first running on the Sun 3/60 circa
1986 at a fairly respectable performance level.

>I use past tense above, because NeWS is apparently at an end.  Sun
>will still support it, but it is being supplanted by DPS.

SGI used a variant of NeWS as thier IRIX windowing system up until late
1991, pre IRIX 4.0.  I was actually saddened to see it's inevitable demise.
(The X community finally got shaped windows in R5, but of coarse NeWS had
it intrinsically from day one.)

>[Disclaimer: I found out most of what I know about NeWS _after_ having
>worked on the NeXT for a couple years.  So, perhaps I was seeing some
>similarities that weren't really there.  But I do think that NeWS was
>written with the DPS documentation in mind :-).]
>
>Later,
>--
>scott hess <shess@ssesco.com>                        <To the BatCube, Robin>
>12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!

Better late than never Scott.  There are a couple of NeWS books under the
Sun titles that are still worth reading.

- kevin
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NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
#4697
Author: John Kheit
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:49
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	Unfortunately, I started this project a little too late to
give the voters a really long time to think about and vote for the choice
products of 1992. However, next year the organization of the NUCA will
be better. Also I'm working on getting the trophies finished. I hope
to have them out to all the winners ASAP.
	Drum roll... And the winners are...
Well, the people have spoken and the best NeXTSTEP product of 1992 is
NeXTSTEP 3.0. Kudos to NeXT for putting out a really nice product
	The really hot products this year were NeXTSTEP 3.0, Virtuoso,
DataPhile and the Zyxel modem. These products received the greatest
number of votes in multiple categories. NeXT did very well; they won
in the Overall Product of the Year, Software Development, Software
Wordprocessing (actually the most common response to this category was
"What wordprocessor?"), Software Utility, Hardware Display, Hardware
Mass Storage, Hardware Printing/Output, Hardware Video, Hardware
Other, and Overall Best Hardware categories.
	Altsys' Virtuoso was the single best product in that it won in
the Software Desk Top Publishing, Software Graphics and Overall Best
Software categories.
	Congratulations to all of the winners!

(The complete results may be found on the orst and/or purdue FTP site
in the submissions directory--if I can get it up there!)

Overall Product of the Year_________________________________
1. NeXTSTEP 3.0
2. Virtuoso
3. Executor
4. Create
4. InstantTeX
4. Presto

Others mentioned (in alphabetical order)
Concurrence
Cub'X Window
Garfinkell-Mahoney Book
gcc
NeXTTeX+TeXView+dvips by Tom Rokicki
PasteUp
QuickStart
SCREENCAST
Stuart



Software___________________________________________________
Audio------------------------------------------------------
1. Presto
2. NeXT CDPlayer
2. Simon Says

Others Mentioned
Eric Clapton 'Unplugged' 
EdSnd2
GISO3.0.app
SoundWorks

Communications---------------------------------------------
1. NXFax
2. SLIP, Louis Mamakos
3. MicroPhone Pro
4. Marble Teleconnect
4. NewsGrazer
4. tip

Others Mentioned
Kermit
MailHelper
NeXTMail

DataBase---------------------------------------------------
1. DataPhile
2. DBInspector
2. DBKit 2

Others Mentioned
IXKit

Developer--------------------------------------------------
1. NeXTstep 3.0
2. ProjectBuilder

Others Mentioned
AppKit
Bill Tschumy
CheckItOut
gcc
Gnu Obj-C runtime
HeaderViewer
InterfaceBuilder
RightBrain
Stuart
SuperDebugger

Dest Top Publishing----------------------------------------
1. Virtuoso
2. PastUp
3. Create
3. Diagram

Others Mentioned
Adobe Illustrator
Concurrence
FrameMaker
NeXTTeX
RedMark

Game-------------------------------------------------------
1. AcChen
2. Oxyd
3. Hunter
3. PacMan
3. Void

Others Mentioned
CyberZone
GoldDigger
Infocom Z-Code Player
Lemmings
MineHunter

Graphic----------------------------------------------------
1. Virtuoso
2. Diagram
2. Adobe Illustrator

Others Mentioned
3D Reality
Intuitiv 3D engine beta
nPoint's 3D app
TIFFany.app

MultiMedia-------------------------------------------------
1. Concurrence
2. CraftMan

Others Mentioned
MediaView
NeXTMail
Presto

Spreadsheet------------------------------------------------
1. Improv
2. Mesa

Others Mentioned
Excel

Scientific-------------------------------------------------
1. Mathematica
2. EquationBuilder

Wordprocessing---------------------------------------------
1. Edit
2. InstantTeX
2. NeXTTeX+TeXView+dvips by Tom Rokicki
4. WriteNow 2

Others Mentioned
Emacs
FrameMaker
TeXView
Word

Utility----------------------------------------------------
1. DarkForest
1. Backspace
1. Engage
4. Opener

Others Mentioned
AreaCode
Cub'X Window
DefaultManager
Edit
Executor
MetroTools
NFSManager
Perl
Poste
QuickStart
Stuart
Virtuoso

Video------------------------------------------------------
1. Movie

Others Mentioned
NeXTtv

Other------------------------------------------------------
1. Big Green CD
1. Executor
1. monoLib CD ROM
1. SBook

Others Mentioned
IconBuilder
PencilMeIn
SciPlot
SCREENCAST
SortingInAction


Overall Software Product of the Year_______________________
1. Virtuoso
2. NeXTSTEP 3.0
3. InstantTeX
3. NeXTTeX+TeXView+dvips by Tom Rokicki
3. Presto

Others Mentioned
Concurrence
Create
Cub'X Window
DataPhile
Diagram
Engage
EquationBuilder
gcc
NewsGrazer
PasteUp
QuickStart
SBook
SCREENCAST



Hadware____________________________________________________
Audio------------------------------------------------------
1. Digital Ears

Others Mentioned
Infinity Kappa series speakers

Communications---------------------------------------------
1. ZyXEL U-1496E
2. Hayes ISDN Extender

Others Mentioned
Supra 14.4 fax/data modem
Whole Internet User's Guide by E. Kroll

Display----------------------------------------------------
1. NeXT ADB 17"
2. NeXT ADB 21"

Others Mentioned
E-machines 16" Monitor
Ikegami 20" Trinitron
NEC 5FG monitor

Graphic Input----------------------------------------------
1. HSD Scan-X Color
2. Wacom Graphics Tablet

Others Mentioned
Color Digital Eye
NeXT ADB Keyboard & Mouse

Mass Storage-----------------------------------------------
1. NeXT CD ROM Drive
2. NeXT Optical Drive

Others Mentioned
Hewlett-Packard HP-35480A DAT tape drive
128MO drive
HP-DAT drive (8GB)
SyQuest 88Mb Drive
Archive Python DAT Drive

Prining/Output---------------------------------------------
1. NeXT Color Printer
2. NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer

Others Mentioned
HP4 & 4M

Video-------------------------------------------------------
1. Next Dimension

Other-------------------------------------------------------
1. NeXT ADB Keyboard & Mouse 4

Others Mentioned
ISDN extender
MIDI link
NeXTwatch
NeXT Screwdriver
Ninja Risc Workstation


Overall Hardware Product of the Year_______________________
1. NeXTStation Color Turbo
2. ZyXEL U-1496E
3. NeXT ADB Keyboard & Mouse

Others Mentioned
Hayes ISDN Extender
HP-35480A DAT tape drive
HP-DAT drive (8GB)
HP- PA RISC Workstations
MIDI link
NeXT CD ROM Drive
Next Dimension
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Re: NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
#4699
Author: John Kheit
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:59
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BTW, I forgot to mention that the winners' .eps logos may also be picked up from the purdue archive site as part of the NUCA.compressed bundle in the submissions directory.

later, John
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4719
Author: Gary Lang
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:03
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" It's not _Adobe_ PostScript, but it is PostScript nonetheless.  Especially when looking over the             "

If it's not Adobe, it's not really PostScript. Ask any print shop...

-g
 
Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4717
Author: Sami Shaio
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:19
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In article <C1D9BE.AB7@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>
>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, 
>>support DPS.
>
>I guess NeXT does not use DPS. 
>
>I guess they didn't pioneer it either. From what I gather
>it was NeXT's idea in the first place to use PostScript on
>the display. Everyone else thought that PostScript was too
>slow for an interactive display.
>
>Oh, forgot this was Sun talking... They're almost as bad as
>Iraqi ambassadors :-).
>
>
>- db


Sun implemented the NeWS window system which was rendering PostScript
to the screen long before DPS. NeWS also had a more complete set of
input primitives than DPS does. In fact, NeWS was also the first
use of annoying mixed capitals names that I'm aware of. Guess
we'll take the blame for that one. 

--sami

:) no flames intended but just setting the record straight...
Re: NeXT Users' Choice Award Winners 1992 (LONG)
#4725
Author: Robert Davis
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:15
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In article <Jan.25.20.49.06.1993.22671@gandalf.rutgers.edu> szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:

>Infocom Z-Code Player

	What and where is this?


Rob
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| Robert Davis                                    davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
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Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
#4935
Author: David Lemke
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:31
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In article <1jur0dINNgr2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
|> 
|> In article <C1D9BE.AB7@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
|> >In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
|> 
|> >>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
|> >>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
|> >>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, 
|> >>support DPS.
|> 
|> >I guess NeXT does not use DPS. 
|> 
|> NeXT has probably sold at least as many Unix units (but not $$) as both SGI and
|> IBM.  Does NCD sell Unix machines or just X terminals?  Not including NeXT in
|> this list is a political decision, I'm sure.

NCD sells just X display stations.

all conspiracy theories aside, i assume the reason NeXT was left off
was because they don't ship DPS/X, which the rest of the list does
(or will).

|> 
|> Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
|> NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
|> NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                             Voice: (408)335-1154
|> USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515

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Dave Lemke				lemke@ncd.com
Network Computing Devices, Inc.
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