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4 total messages Started by Michael Wasfy Ibrahim Fri, 31 Jul 1992 21:24
Shell escape in less?
#567
Author: Michael Wasfy Ibrahim
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 21:24
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Hello,

I was considering making less the default pager for man until the  
following happened.  Whenever I try to use the shell escape in less my  
system struggles for about 15 seconds and finally locks.  The only way I  
can get it to reboot is from the ROM monitor.  Checking /usr/adm/messages  
I find the following just before my machine's death:

Jul 31 15:52:46 ibrahim-michael mach: vnode_pager:  
/private/swapdisk/vm/swapfile is full.

Hey this sounds like a good reason to crash...unfortunately it does this  
immediately, that is in about 10-15 seconds a 16 meg swapfile grows to  
fill a 105 meg disk.  Sound reasonable?  At least I believe this happens,  
I'm getting to tired of watching my machine fsck on reboot that I truly  
don't want to experiment anymore. As far as I know I don't have any  
hiwater marks set for my swapfile so that shouldn't be the problem.  I  
suppose my question is: Has anyone experienced this type of behavior from  
less?  If so, does anyone know a workaround?  Thanks in advance!


Michael Ibrahim
wasfy@nic.gac.edu   
Shell escape in less? Solved
#576
Author: Michael Wasfy Ibrahim
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1992 02:03
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Apparently the problems of the less command seem to be inherent to the  
version distributed by NeXT.  I've since acquired less v177 and it works  
w/out a problem (Thankyou, Jack Bryans, for the advice).  It is available  
from prep.ai.mit.edu in u1/emacs/less-177.tar.Z if anyone is interested.

Thanks to all who responded!

Michael Ibrahim
wasfy@nic.gac.edu
Re: Shell escape in less?
#584
Author: Alex Blakemore
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1992 15:50
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In article <1992Jul31.212410.18632@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> wasfy@nic.gac.edu writes:
> Whenever I try to use the shell escape in less my  
> system struggles for about 15 seconds and finally locks.  
> Has anyone experienced this type of behavior from  
> less?  If so, does anyone know a workaround?  Thanks in advance!

I tried this with the intention of disproving that anything was wrong
with less on the NeXT - as I've found less to a great improvement over more.
The same thing happened, but I managed to kill the parent shell before
the crash, barely.  Its true :(
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Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu   NeXT mail accepted
Re: Shell escape in less? Solved
#597
Author: Matthew Dillon
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1992 18:34
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In article <1992Aug1.020352.1707@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> wasfy@ibrahim-michael.eigenmann.indiana.edu (Michael Wasfy Ibrahim) writes:
>Apparently the problems of the less command seem to be inherent to the
>version distributed by NeXT.  I've since acquired less v177 and it works
>w/out a problem (Thankyou, Jack Bryans, for the advice).  It is available
>from prep.ai.mit.edu in u1/emacs/less-177.tar.Z if anyone is interested.
>
>Thanks to all who responded!
>
>Michael Ibrahim
>wasfy@nic.gac.edu

    It also occurs to me that many of these 'swap file full' errors can be
    avoided by setting resource limits appropriately.  I.E. limit your
    stack to, say, 8MB and run time data to 64MB (or whatever).  That way a
    runaway program will only take 72MB of swap before it crashes and ONLY
    that particular program will crash, instead of the entire system going
    south.

					-Matt
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