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Started by Stuart Kossover
Tue, 07 Apr 1992 08:33
SimonSays
Author: Stuart Kossover
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 08:33
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 08:33
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Well, let me try again. It appears as if our News posting transmittor sliced and diced my first attempt and sent the last paragraph. Anyway... My wife has been complaining that I spend too much time on the NeXT. She's a bit jealous. Now that I have SimonSays, I'm not only spending even more time on it, I'm talking to it! I don't know if it's because it is 4AM, but that seems so funny. Now down to some Simon issues: 1. Simon will not recognize AdobeIllustrator keyboard commands that I manually put in its application directory. I have bypassed this by putting a sublevel called "Illustrator" in the Common Words directory. Here I have the keyboard commands and some mouse macros for selecting tools off the palette (these seem to work fine even though HSD advises not to put mouse macros outside of the Application directory). From an active Adobe window I can call "Illustrator" and run my Adobe specific commands. 2. Changes to the Preference Panel appear to be activated only when Simon is quit and started again. 3. It would be nice if Simon would playback my voice commands so I could remind myself of how I enunciated them. I sit there sometimes repeating commands with permutations and combinations of inflections to the point of giving up and retraining them. 4. It would be nice if Simon would open up its browser to the highlighted command that was successful last. Chances are this would be in the application that I would currently be using. This would quickly facilitate adding or retraining commands for that application without having to browse through the limited view that is offered at this time. 5. I spoke to Dave Peters at HSD who was very informative. He said he believes the BackSpace Application to conflict with some of Simon's functions. I had BackSpace running when I first started using Simon. I found, however, that quitting BackSpace and starting from scratch with Simon made no difference in the afore mentioned issues. 6. It would be nice if Simon could open specific files, like a telephone directory created with Andy Stone's fabulous DataPhile without me having to launch it first. Maybe there could be a Doc receptical to drop these files into. I realize that Simon is new to NeXT. It is really quite exceptional for Version 1.0. Although this is not intended to be a critique, it sure sounds like one, doesn't it? My intent is to share my limited experience with this remarkably potential program, give and get feedback, and help HSD better perfect its product. Just imagine how great Version 2.0 will be! Please respond in open forum or to me personally about your experiences with Simon. Can anyone comment on the issues I have posted? Stu Kossover, M.D. e-mail-----> wind1289@med.unc.edu
Re: SimonSays
Author: William Lee Nussbaum
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 02:27
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 02:27
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In article <1992Apr7.083326.23643@samba.oit.unc.edu> wind1289@med.unc.edu (Stuart Kossover) writes: > >6. It would be nice if Simon could open specific files, like a telephone >directory created with Andy Stone's fabulous DataPhile without me having >to launch it first. Maybe there could be a Doc receptical to drop these >files into. > Wouldn't a unix-macro "open <filename>" do this?... admittedly, drag-and-drop would be nicer... maybe have the unix panel read a path from drag-and-drops and append/replace the selection with this "open <filename>" construction? >Stu Kossover, M.D. e-mail-----> wind1289@med.unc.edu
Re: SimonSays
Author: Greg Cockroft
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 15:05
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 15:05
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Stuart, We encourage users to route these type of questions through the built-in email feedback mechanism. I'll get ahold of Illustrator and check out the first problem you reported. The reason we suggest that Mouse macros in general are placed in Application levels is that they are tied to applications anyway and do not make sense to be in a level which is generally always in hot memory and for commands which get executed for all applications. Stuart Kossover writes > 2. Changes to the Preference Panel appear to be activated only when Simon > is quit and started again. > There is supposed to be string on the Preferences panel which says that you need to restart listening mode before some changes will take affect. Looks like this got removed when the panel was redone for looks. I'll make sure it gets put back on. > 3. It would be nice if Simon would playback my voice commands so I could > remind myself of how I enunciated them. I sit there sometimes repeating > commands with permutations and combinations of inflections to the point of > giving up and retraining them. > We have had several people ask for this. The sounds are purposely deleted to save disk space. If a word is approx. a second and sampled 3 times. This is 24K a word. If you have 100 words this is 2.4 Meg of disk space. > 4. It would be nice if Simon would open up its browser to the highlighted > command that was successful last. Chances are this would be in the > application that I would currently be using. This would quickly > facilitate adding or retraining commands for that application without > having to browse through the limited view that is offered at this time. > Sounds reasonable. > 5. I spoke to Dave Peters at HSD who was very informative. He said he > believes the BackSpace Application to conflict with some of Simon's > functions. I had BackSpace running when I first started using Simon. I > found, however, that quitting BackSpace and starting from scratch with > Simon made no difference in the afore mentioned issues. > The problem with backspace and SimonSays 1.0 is a bozo bug on my part. It is only a problem if you are training. You will get a 30-60 second delay when you start training and between words. This is fixed and will be in the first maintenance release. > 6. It would be nice if Simon could open specific files, like a telephone > directory created with Andy Stone's fabulous DataPhile without me having > to launch it first. Maybe there could be a Doc receptical to drop these > files into. > The only way to do this currently is with the open command in a UNIX object. -greg. -- Greg Cockroft greg@agog.com Agog, Inc. (517) 627-2186 fax 2673 13780 North River Highway
Re: SimonSays
Author: Hugh Secker-Walker
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 18:37
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 18:37
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In article <1992Apr8.150518.962@agog.com> greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) writes:
> 3. It would be nice if Simon would playback my voice commands so I could
> remind myself of how I enunciated them. I sit there sometimes repeating
> commands with permutations and combinations of inflections to the point
of
> giving up and retraining them.
>
We have had several people ask for this. The sounds are purposely deleted
to save disk space. If a word is approx. a second and sampled 3 times.
This is 24K a word. If you have 100 words this is 2.4 Meg of disk space.
Save only the version of the word that best matches the stored correlation
"template", and downsample it to 5K. The playback will be telephone
quality, but it will convey the intonations the user is looking for.
And now you're down to 500K of disk.
--
Hugh Secker-Walker INTERNET: hugh@ear-ache.mit.edu
MIT, Research Lab of Electronics UUCP: mit-eddie!mit-athena!hugh
"The good news is the ear has 30,000 channels to the brain,
the bad news is they're all nonlinear" -- M.B. Sachs
Re: SimonSays
Author: Andrew Loewenstern
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 14:52
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 14:52
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In article <1992Apr7.083326.23643@samba.oit.unc.edu> wind1289@med.unc.edu (Stuart Kossover) writes: > 2. Changes to the Preference Panel appear to be activated only when Simon > is quit and started again. Simon seems to read the preferences when he goes into Listening mode, so either go to Training mode before changing the prefs or go to Training mode and then back to Listening after you change the prefs... Faster than restarting. andrew -- andrew@cubetech.com Andrew Loewenstern | "listen: there's a hell of a good universe Cube Technologies, Inc. | next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
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