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bjorn@darmok.uoregon.edu (Bjorn S. Fjeld Pettersen) writes:
> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
> >       [quoting from a paper:]
> > >>The worst disadvantage of C++ at the moment is political:  accepting
> > >>C++ as the standard OO language de facto tends to kill other existing
> > >>languages, and stifle the development of a new generation of
> > >>essentially better OO languages.
> > 
> > Aaaaaaaaaamen!!
> > 
> > --
> > Ronald Pomeroy		[Objective-Cruntime: [Smalltalk runtime]];
> 
> When I can do this in Obj-C I would be happy (tm):
> 
> 	String a = "hello", b = " ", c = "world";
> 	cout << a + b + c + '\n';

I do wish Objective C (and every other language) did handle character  
strings in a much more reasonable manner (such as the above).  I really  
really hate the C idea that a string is an array of characters, and that the  
compiler doesn't have any concept of what to do with it.

> Until then things (tm) look soooo much prettier in C++.

Well, the above looks prettier, that doesn't mean that all C++ code looks  
prettier.

> (BTW, where is that multiple inheritance in Obj-C???)

Seems to me that more people have hung themselves trying to use multiple  
inheritance in C++ than have really missed multiple inheritance in Objective  
C.  In any case, that ignores the issue mentioned in the paper.  With  
everyone jumping to have C++ as "the OOP language", *all* other OOP  
languages will be stifled.  I'll grant that Objective C isn't the ultimate  
OOP language, but that doesn't mean that C++ *is*.

(from what I know of things, which is unquestionably limited, I think I'd  
favor something more like Modula-3 myself.  But then, I don't know things  
like Smalltalk at all)

I really REALLY don't mean to encourage a religious war over languages, but  
I hate *anyone* quoting a 3-line program and saying "See, this program  
proves that everything in language X is better than everything in language  
Y".  You can't intelligently compare computer languages based on a tiny  
snippet of code.

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