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Article #547Re: Virtual memory devours my disk
From: Steven M. Boker
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 16:16
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1992 16:16
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In article <264@moene.UUCP> toon@moene.uucp (Toon Moene) writes: >In article <giDLiB2w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> dylan@midiline.la.ca.us >(Comrade D) writes: > >[ ... essentially ... ] > >> the problem. The shortest summary is, "Yes, it's a problem of varying >> extents and it's not one NeXT plans on fixing any time soon." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> For virtual memory, NeXTStep uses a "stack-oriented" scheme that has >> terrible side-effects for me. (See NeXTanswers sysadmin.569 on this >> scheme.) > >[ ... describing NeXTStep as adding new paged out pages only at the > end of the file ...] > >This is horrible. As the NeXTanswers item says (paraphrased): "if a long >running process [like the WindowServer - TM] is adding another page to the >swap file, it can not be truncated EVEN IF ALL INTERMEDIATE PAGES ARE >FREED". Well, there you have it. And we thought we got a hot new OS >architecture at hand in our lovely black boxes. EVEN VMS CAN DO THIS >BETTER. > This is in fact horrible. And I was doubly horrified to hear that 3.0 was not intending to address the _Number_One_Weakness_ of the operating system as perceived by the users here. Having to reboot your machine several times a day under what my users consider to be "normal" conditions is, to them, a considerable inconvenience. Why NeXT hasn't put major effort into this achilles heel is beyond me. Steve -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steve Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # smb3u@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!murdoch!kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu!smb3u From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: Virtual memory devours my disk Message-ID: <1992Apr5.161632.24963@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <giDLiB2w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> <264@moene.UUCP> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 16:16:32 GMT Lines: 39