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Re: Praise and gripes about 3.0

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From: Booker C. Bense
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:46
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In article <BusJBv.4nr.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes:
>Several people have said that 3.0 is slower than 2.1.  Are these
>people working with color machines?  If so, that's expected --
>remember, with all the new color icons the window depths will be
>promoted and all the windows will take up more memory (people wanted
>more color, but you have to pay for it).  Can somebody with a
>NeXTstation mono with 20M of memory comment on the relative speeds of
>2.1 and 3.0?
>-- 
>Doug DeJulio
>ddj+@cmu.edu

- Well, that's exactly what I have! Overall, 3.0 seems speedier to me
than 2.1, however it is slower in different places. Often unexpectedly
so, some of the window manipulation is overly cute ( when you iconify
a window you get a series of descending outline boxes to the icon). 
I'm beginning to suspect that it has to do with how the memory is
swapped. You pay a larger cost the first time you do something, but
everytime you use it after that it's MUCH faster. Also filemem now
has a man page, check it out!

 I also have a `030 cube with 12meg and 3.0 is pretty painful on that,
the difference between the two machines is much more noticable than
before.

 I suspect most of the people complaining have color slabs with 16mb.
Even with 32mb the color slab is just too slow.... The Turbo's
approach spiffiness, but I have yet to see any color workstation from
ANY VENDOR be of use with less than 32 mb. 

One thing I would suggest is that you build everything from scratch,
i.e. follow the directions for building a disk from scratch from the
CD. Update.app is well done, but the machine was noticably faster
after I rebuilt the entire filesystem.

- Anyway, Now we finally have a REAL 3d Graphics library!!!!!!
Of course we don't quite have the hardware to really make it fly.
I think the apps that will come out of this will make everyone 
forget about any 2.1 ``features''.... 

- My only real bitch about 3.0 is the lack of any authentication in
the Window Server, it's either EVERYBODY or nobody. 

- Booker C. Bense                    
prefered: benseb@grumpy.sdsc.edu	"I think it's GOOD that everyone 
NeXT Mail: benseb@next.sdsc.edu 	   becomes food " - Hobbes
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Subject: Re: Praise and gripes about 3.0
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