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Re: Truth: what is it? (was: Re: Praise and gripes about 3.0)

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From: Jim De Arras
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 02:12
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In article <2151@dutiws.tudelft.nl> dimitri@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Dimitri  
Tischenko) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.165220.25206@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com  
(Jim De Arras) writes:
> .... stuff deleted ...
> >Per my old-fashioned upbringing, in the (early) fifties, there is truth and  
> >!truth.  !Truth == lie.  The statement "...is a lot closer to the truth..."  
> >implies the position not the truth, and hence a lie.  I know that is out of  
> >sync with the nineties, where truth is more a matter of perception than an  
> >absolute, but I'm too old to change.
> >
> >Jim
> 
> Well, !Truth==lie is certainly not true (pun intended!). Because the
> question "what is truth" is sometimes impossible to answer. For
> example: "There exists another life besides the one on earth" is
> this a truth? is this a lie? Maybe it can be both or none?
> 

It would be true if you knew or believed it to be true when you spoke it.   
Otherwise it would be a lie.  Truth and falsehood are not the same as fact and  
fiction.

> Just a bit of thinking.
> 
> Dimitri
>  
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Jim
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