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Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?

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From: Charles Fletcher
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 13:20
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In article <BtHxMB.G0D@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:
>>Yup, that did it.  However, I can hardly imagine that this makes 
>>Framemaker crash and/or log you out "all the time" and renders Framemaker
>>"unusable".
>
>I posted earlier about how Frame decides to crash on me at random
>times, while other apps and the OS move along perfectly well (aka, no
>RAM problems).  Since Frame doesn't save your work or put up a panel
>saying "I have a big problem that I can't work around, where do you
>want to save an emergency copy of your work?", it makes Frame very
>bad in my eyes.
>

	Unfortunately I missed the original post in this thread, but 
	picking up here--I use Frame a lot to put together large books,
	and I do get a lot of crashes (I am submitting bug reports to
	Frame). These varying from just hanging (usually when "iconifying"
	a window opened from a book file), to crashing to loggin me out
	(killing the window server--see GR's follow-up post, thanks Glenn,
	I'll keep an eye out for that one.) BUT, to Frames credit I have
	NEVER lost more than a couple of minutes work (total!, but not
	 counting "restart" time.) There is
	an autobackup feature and a crash recovery file (although I have
	found these to be messed up on occasion.) Hence, you should check
	to make sure these features are turned on.

	One problem with Frame is that it does not use a NeXT built 
	interface (I believe this was discussed by Simson in a recent
	NeXTworld article.) Instead, Frame uses a "translator" from its
	interface to NeXTSTEP (to keep its interface consistant over all
	platforms.) I believe this causes a lot of its problems.

	Hints: ALWAYS save before using Services, especially calling
	Webster when the spell Checker is active.
	Always make sure you have an insertion point when copying tables
	between documents.

	Let me say that over all I have been pleased with FrameMaker, and
	especially its table feature (only one minor bug so far, and it
	does not cause a crash).

	Now to answer the question in the subject line: TeX (LaTeX actually)
	does tables (what ever happen to "Tables to Die For"?) that are
	very nice and fairly easy to generate. I have seen some guys at
	the office generate some very pleasing tables without much effort.

	Charlie

>-- 
>-- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
>-- No NeXTmail please


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From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
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