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proper version of tex question.
#1800
Author: Thomas Carr
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 00:52
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A simple and probably stupid question.
Will NeXTTeX 3.0 work only on NS3.0?  I'm still on NS2.1.

How can I get a copy of NeXTTeX, version "which ever one runs on my
machine?"  

Thanks,  Tom
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Thomas W. Carr                   
Northwestern Univ., Engineering Sciences & Applied Mathematics
tcarr@nwu.edu  (not NeXT mailable)
Re: proper version of tex question.
#1803
Author: Tom Marchioro
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 01:18
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In <1993Jan9.005258.28116@news.acns.nwu.edu> tcarr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Carr) writes:

>A simple and probably stupid question.
>Will NeXTTeX 3.0 work only on NS3.0?  I'm still on NS2.1.

I'll answer here, since this question arises occasoinally and the answer
may be of general use.  
 
NeXT-TeX consists of basically three separate parts, TeX itself, dvips, 
which is the "driver" from .dvi files to Postscript, and TeXview, which
is the screen Previewer.  The differences in TeX between NeXT-TeX 2.0
and NeXT-TeX 3.0 are fairly minor.  You could use TeX for years without
noticing them. However, dvips and TeXview have changed a great deal.
Unfortunately, TeXview 3.0 works only with NS 3.0.  Also, after about 
dvips5490 there is a relationship between the version of dvips and the 
version of TeXview (TeXview is basically a "viewing window" for dvips
on the NeXT's Display Postscript screen) which means you can't mix and
match randomly.  So, if you stay on your 2.1 system the most up to date
thing you can do is to run NeXT-TeX 2.0, and then get the package 

nexttex-alpha.tar.Z 

off of Labrea.stanford.edu (36.8.0.47 I believe) which contains the last
versions of dvips and TeXview compatible with NS 2.X (and a few other goodies
like an improved hyphenation trie).  

>How can I get a copy of NeXTTeX, version "which ever one runs on my
>machine?"  

NeXT-TeX comes with the extended OS.  If you go to 3.0 it will be in a
package on the CD-ROM.  If you stay with 2.1 then it shoudl be on the 
MOD, or, if you don't have that, you can get it from someone who does.
It comes in a 6 MB file called nexttex.tar.Z.  The accompanying README
tells you how to install it (a small child could do it, providing he/she
can type "make tex" :)

If you stay with 2.1, do the installation,  then go to labrea and get the
upgrade to the "alpha" version of NeXT-TeX 3.0.  This will give you most
of the functionality of NeXT-TeX 3.0 (although some nice little features
are missing) and it also seems to be extremely stable.  I used it heavily
for about 9 months without major problems.  

If you need more specific help you can reach me by E-mail.

>Thanks,  Tom

You're welcome, Tom
Re: proper version of tex question.
#1807
Author: Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 03:41
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In article <1993Jan9.005258.28116@news.acns.nwu.edu> tcarr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Carr) writes:

???   A simple and probably stupid question.
???   Will NeXTTeX 3.0 work only on NS3.0?  I'm still on NS2.1.
???
???   How can I get a copy of NeXTTeX, version "which ever one runs on my
???   machine?"  
There was a pre-release version of TeX on labrea.stanford.edu, with 
some of the features of the 3.0 release included. I just checked with
ange-ftp and they are still there:
    -rw-r--r--  1 root     102        475903 Jun 27  1992 nexttex.tar.Z
    -rw-r--r--  1 root     102        588659 Jun 26  1992 nexttex-alpha.tar.Z
    -r--rw-r--  1 root     102         32068 Jun 11  1992 dvidvi2.tar.Z
    -r--r--r--  1 root     102        119773 Apr 20  1992 texview-a9.tar.Z
also:
    -rw-r--r--  1 519      fsuser     690176 Nov 17 04:23 dvips5497.tar.Z

The nexttex-alpha is the one containing most of the enhancements.
--
Hardy 
-----
Meinhard E. Mayer,  Department of Physics, UC Irvine 
e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
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Re: proper version of tex question.
#1808
Author: Tom Marchioro
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 04:33
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In <HARDY.93Jan8194056@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:

>In article <1993Jan9.005258.28116@news.acns.nwu.edu> tcarr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Carr) writes:

>???   A simple and probably stupid question.
>???   Will NeXTTeX 3.0 work only on NS3.0?  I'm still on NS2.1.
>???
>???   How can I get a copy of NeXTTeX, version "which ever one runs on my
>???   machine?"  
>There was a pre-release version of TeX on labrea.stanford.edu, with 
>some of the features of the 3.0 release included. I just checked with
>ange-ftp and they are still there:
>    -rw-r--r--  1 root     102        475903 Jun 27  1992 nexttex.tar.Z
>    -rw-r--r--  1 root     102        588659 Jun 26  1992 nexttex-alpha.tar.Z
>    -r--rw-r--  1 root     102         32068 Jun 11  1992 dvidvi2.tar.Z
>    -r--r--r--  1 root     102        119773 Apr 20  1992 texview-a9.tar.Z
>also:
>    -rw-r--r--  1 519      fsuser     690176 Nov 17 04:23 dvips5497.tar.Z

>The nexttex-alpha is the one containing most of the enhancements.

Just to clarify here:  (1)  nexttex-alpha contains ENHANCEMENTS to NeXT-TeX
2.0.  It DOES NOT contain all of NeXT-TeX 2.0, which you need to install
first.  It contains texview-a9, so grabbing that is redundant.  (2)  Because
the versions of TeXview and dvips became "wedded" during the development of 
NeXT-TeX 3.0, grabbing texview-a9 by itself does you no good as it will
not run with the old version of dvips you have, and it ALSO DOES NOT run
with dvips5497.  DO NOT grab 5497 unless you are running NeXTstep 3.0
(and if you are running NS 3.0 then definitely go get 5497 because it 
fixes several minor bugs --- and perhaps a few not so minor --- in the 
NeXT-TeX 3.0 release).

Hope that helps a bit.

Tom
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