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Article #324Re: Are 3.0 daemons stable and secure?
From: David Lemson
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:18
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:18
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jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >And while I'm asking this, does 3.0 come with the changes that they >say are 'secure' versus 2.1 insecure features (the things I'm speaking >of are listed in the SysAdmin manual)? Why, if these things are >known, would NeXT choose to ship insecure machines? There are good reasons that standalone machines would want to be set up the way that NeXT ships them. You could go through each thing that is mentioned in the infamous Chapter 16 and find a reason that it is shipped that way. By the way, if you read Chapter 16, it always tells why one would want the insecure behavour. A few (I'm basically quoting out of the manual): Why is / 1777 ? Plenty of people like to make directories off of their root without having to become root to do this. Maybe they 'shouldn't', but it isn't that big of a deal when you are the only one who uses this machine. Why is PrintManager setuid root? So you can delete print jobs, regardless of who created them. Why is Preferences setuid root? So that you can change the time without having to log in as root, which people shouldn't be doing all the time anyway. Why isn't trusted_networks already set? It would be impossible for them to know which networks I want to trust! etc... There are somethings that a system administrator has to do. No system ships their system competely impenetrable... Sun still ships machines with a '+' in the /etc/hosts.equiv. (I wonder whether they will still do so with Solaris 2.0, if it ever comes out...) The fact that NeXT documents these 'holes' sure is nice. The other holes that are fairly important have been issued through CERT advisories and NeXT has remedied them (rdist, for example...which hit almost every BSD system anywhere). -- David Lemson (217) 244-1205 University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!lemson From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Subject: Re: Are 3.0 daemons stable and secure? Message-ID: <Bs8Jzq.1pF@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana References: <Bs8EJ6.Cs6@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:18:48 GMT Lines: 39