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Re: NeXT on a Token Ring network?

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From: dan
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 07:13
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In article <rsvapINNcor@agate.berkeley.edu>, opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu (Richard Hintz) writes:
> In article <1992Apr1.224959.925@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>  
> dan@dsullivan.kellogg.nwu.edu (Daniel Sullivan) writes:
>> I would like to connect a NeXT into network of PCs that run Novell Netware  
>> overa Token Ring network.  In particular I would like to be able to get files  
>> from their server and to exchange mail with them.  (They use something called  
>> cc mailer.)
>> 
>> What kind of hardware do I need?  My understanding is that a bridge is  
>> expensive (>$1000).  Do I need such a thing?
>> 
>> What kind of software do I need?  Will NS 3.0 be sufficient?
> 
> 
> Bridges between Ethernet and Token Ring include IBM 8209 and Cisco (router).
> For mail gateway software between Novell and SMTP, look at Charon which is  
> available at syr.edu (among other places according to Archie).  The hardware is  
> not cheap.  
> --
> Richard Hintz  opsrjh@uccvma  hintz@oz.ucop.edu
> University of California

There are some additional options.  Netware 3.11 servers and external
bridge/routers can route IP now, the TCP.NLM allows this.  I believe that this
requires a 386 box.  PCROUTE is a freely avilable router that can be setup on a
286 box with packet drivers.  Both these are less than $1000 solutions.
The IBM 8209 is okay, but is a bridge.  It is for the most part a transparent
bridge, however, due to differences between MAC addresses on Token Ring and
Ethernet it plays with the contents of TCP/IP ARP packets.  It does not do
the same for other protocols like Novell IPX/SPX and AppleTalk.  The Cisco
is the ultimate solution for multiple protocols especially if you want to use
the NS 3.0 Appletalk and Novell clients.  The Netware solution will also deal
with AppleTalk and Novell in addition to TCP/IP so it may be as good a solution
as the Cisco, but if your campus doesn't have any Novell 3.11 servers it can be
very expensive since a license to use the server is necessary to get the
external bridge/router software, but any number of bridge/routers can be 
set up off one server license.  If you can't wait for NS 3.0 clients, you can
use Netware 3.11's NFS.NLM so the NeXT can use its build in NFS networking
capabilities to mount file systems from the Netware server.

-- 
Dan Boehlke                    Internet:  dan@gac.edu
Campus Network Manager         BITNET:    dan@gacvax1.bitnet
Gustavus Adolphus College
St. Peter, MN 56082 USA        Phone:     (507)933-7596
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Subject: Re: NeXT on a Token Ring network?
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Date: 8 Apr 92 07:13:08 GMT
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