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In article <1992Nov6.231744.6229@almserv.uucp> rmcghee@fnma.com writes:
>Hey NetWare Gurus,
>
>I just set up a Novell server but access from a NeXT is sooooo slow it is  
>not usable.  Any known problems?  Any idiot checks?  The automount takes  
>literally about 30 seconds and subsequent acccesses do not get any better.
>All help is greatly appreciated.

The autoNetWareMounter is a dog.  The client isn't so bad when you are
doing big reads or writes, but browsing around the NetWare file-system
is painful.  It shouldn't be that way.


andrew
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andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:

>In article <1992Nov6.231744.6229@almserv.uucp> rmcghee@fnma.com writes:
>>Hey NetWare Gurus,
>>
>>I just set up a Novell server but access from a NeXT is sooooo slow it is  
>>not usable.  Any known problems?  Any idiot checks?  The automount takes  
>>literally about 30 seconds and subsequent acccesses do not get any better.
>>All help is greatly appreciated.

>The autoNetWareMounter is a dog.  The client isn't so bad when you are
>doing big reads or writes, but browsing around the NetWare file-system
>is painful.  It shouldn't be that way.

You could always get Netware NFS.  It's fast!!!!  So fast, it'll rumble!
Even a TurboNeXT can't keep up without slowing Netware server down.  I've
got a SPARC 10 which got chewed up by a 386/33 EISA server, before the 
slow-down patch was installed.  

Then you could just mount the Netware server..

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In article <1992Nov6.231744.6229@almserv.uucp> rmcghee@fnma.com(Rich McGhee)  
writes:
> Hey NetWare Gurus,
> 
> I just set up a Novell server but access from a NeXT is sooooo slow it is  
> not usable.  Any known problems?  Any idiot checks?  The automount takes  
> literally about 30 seconds and subsequent acccesses do not get any better.
> All help is greatly appreciated.
> 
Maybe, I've done something wrong, but there seems to be some other unpleasant  
features too.
I could see, that a connection which is established to a NetWare server remains  
active (AND IN LOGGED IN STATE) after I've logged out from my NeXT. Why to hell  
this ? I'm not sure if this could be a great security hole!!
The other thing is, if I try to copy some files from a large directory with  
many files and directories on it (for example the sys:mail directory with about  
1300 subdirectories on it) the performance decreases rapidely and after some  
time the connection seems to hung. Each time if this happens, I could not break  
the connection from my next, I had to switch to the Netware server console and  
to delete the connection.
BTW, I could see the File Viewer could handle such large directories but a  
simple 'ls -lR' will also die in such a directory.

Any hints and suggestions are welcome

Christian
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In article <BxF2r2.HJ0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam) writes:
>andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov6.231744.6229@almserv.uucp> rmcghee@fnma.com writes:
>>>Hey NetWare Gurus,
>>>
>>>I just set up a Novell server but access from a NeXT is sooooo slow it is  
>>>not usable.  Any known problems?  Any idiot checks?  The automount takes  
>>>literally about 30 seconds and subsequent acccesses do not get any better.
>>>All help is greatly appreciated.
>
>>The autoNetWareMounter is a dog.  The client isn't so bad when you are
>>doing big reads or writes, but browsing around the NetWare file-system
>>is painful.  It shouldn't be that way.
>
>You could always get Netware NFS.  It's fast!!!!  So fast, it'll rumble!
>Even a TurboNeXT can't keep up without slowing Netware server down.  I've
>got a SPARC 10 which got chewed up by a 386/33 EISA server, before the 
>slow-down patch was installed.  
>
>Then you could just mount the Netware server..

Yeah, we've got NetWare NFS and NetWare for Macintosh (try mounting
the NetWare server over AppleTalk on your NeXT - it's a trip).
NetWare NFS is pretty expensive, so getting it (if you don't already
have it) just to hook up a bunch if NeXT's is probably not worth it.

NetWare kicks ass!


andrew

In article <1992Nov8.232240.7285@mb3.tu-chemnitz.de> Christian.Andretzky@MB3.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Christian Andretzky) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.231744.6229@almserv.uucp> rmcghee@fnma.com(Rich McGhee)  
>writes:
>> Hey NetWare Gurus,
>> 
>> I just set up a Novell server but access from a NeXT is sooooo slow it is  
>> not usable.  Any known problems?  Any idiot checks?  The automount takes  
>> literally about 30 seconds and subsequent acccesses do not get any better.
>> All help is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>Maybe, I've done something wrong, but there seems to be some other unpleasant
>features too.
>I could see, that a connection which is established to a NetWare server remains
>active (AND IN LOGGED IN STATE) after I've logged out from my NeXT. Why to hell  
>this ? I'm not sure if this could be a great security hole!!

It's not a security problem, but it is a pain in the ass.  Especially
if you are short on connections on your server.  I think there is a
problem with the detach/logout functions in the NetWare library (none
of our custom NetWare software on the NeXT could detach and logout).


andrew