AppleTalk Zones not appearing.

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3 total messages Started by Aris Theocharides Thu, 01 Oct 1992 09:32

#1664

Author: Aris Theocharides
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 09:32

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Hello,

I use a NeXTstation Turbo with no other NeXTs on my local net and am using
NeXTSTEP 3.0 (final, not beta). I have installed the AppleTalk package.

After turning on the AppleTalk connectivity via the Preferances app, I
re-boot, but with no Zones or Printers found. The /Net sub-dir is empty.

I use the default values that 3.0 has for the entries in the /localconfig
part of NetInfo of the AppleTalk section.

If I change the Network ID from 62580 -> 21250 (supplied by a system admin
person here) I can see the local Zones' machines/servers but do not see any
other zones at all.

The university here has many AppleTalk Zones, of the form :  unimelb-?????
in my departments case it is: unimelb-Maths. I do not see any of them.
When I try to connect to a printer via the PrintManager App, the system
keeps twirling away never finding a printer.

We use AppleTalkPhase = 1 here, and this was changed from 2->1 in the
NetInfo bit from the very start.

If anyone can make *any* sense of my comments please let me know. I would be
happy to explain further, especially to direct questions.

I guess the bottom line is: Why are there no Zones appearing? Why is the
NeXT not changing the Network ID from 62580 to something valid like 21250?
Why are there no printers available, even when I can see the local zones'
servers?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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       aris theocharides:  aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU
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Re: AppleTalk Zones not appearing.

#1668

Author: Geoff Brunkhorst
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 13:07

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In article <9227519.25519@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU (Aris  
Theocharides) writes:
> Hello,
>[...]
> After turning on the AppleTalk connectivity via the Preferances app, I
> re-boot, but with no Zones or Printers found. The /Net sub-dir is empty.
> 
> I use the default values that 3.0 has for the entries in the /localconfig
> part of NetInfo of the AppleTalk section.
>[...]

I am seeing a variation on this, where I am seeing only selected zones,
and very few printers.  On the Mac IIfx right next to my 3.0 Turbo, I can
see all, and connect to all.   

One question is complexity.  Our AppleTalk net is about 50 zones on about
30 ethernet and localTalk segments.  Has anyone seen 'flawless' connection
by a NeXT into an equally complex appletalk.  I am seeing 10 to 20 second  
delays when I click on a zone before I see any fileserver info, and 20-40  
second delays when I look for printers.

We are a Phase 2 network, if that means anything.  

- geoff
--
"The only thing obsoleted by Windows 3.1 is poking myself in the
eye with a pointed stick." - Gene Lee
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Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF                    brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10                                    (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA     fax (507) 284-5231

Re: AppleTalk Zones not appearing.

#1707

Author: Robert R. Borchers
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 16:09

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In article <9227519.25519@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> aris@mundoe.maths.mu.OZ.AU  
(Aris Theocharides) writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I use a NeXTstation Turbo with no other NeXTs on my local net and am  
using
> NeXTSTEP 3.0 (final, not beta). I have installed the AppleTalk package.
> 
> After turning on the AppleTalk connectivity via the Preferances app, I
> re-boot, but with no Zones or Printers found. The /Net sub-dir is empty.
..stuff deleted...

> I guess the bottom line is: Why are there no Zones appearing? Why is the
> NeXT not changing the Network ID from 62580 to something valid like  
21250?
> Why are there no printers available, even when I can see the local  
zones'
> servers?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
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>        aris theocharides:  aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU
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--
My NeXT machine picked up the zones here and found a useable network ID,  
10099, so I did not consult with the local people. One thing you might  
check is your local zone. I changed mine accidentally and things went to  
hell in a handbasket. Our major problem here is not being able to  
disconnect from a server after openning and closing a file. The system  
thinks the file is still open. The one thing that seems to work perfectly  
is access to printers once you guess the correct laserwriter driver. We  
are Appletalk 2 on an extremely large network, ~4000 unix machines, and  
~7000 macs. Bob 

Robert R. Borchers
L-414
Livermore, Ca 94551
borchers@llnl.gov
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