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Started by Kjartan Pierre Emilsson
Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:45
Printer showing up as user
Author: Kjartan Pierre Emilsson
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:45
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:45
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Hi, I've had a small problem with NetInfo recently. Somehow, a Printer showed up as a network user, and there is absolutely no way that I can get it out of there. I've tried to delete it directly in the NetInfoManager, but once I press delete, the entry remains, and if I select it again, I get an error message, about some problems with the browser. I then tried to read the entry directly using niutil, but get an invalid Id answer. How did this beast show up anyway ? And how do I zap it ? Thanks -Kjartan -- Kjartan Pierre Emilsson e-mail: kjartan@ecu.unice.fr Non-Linear Institute of Nice tel.: 93 52 98 36 Universite de Nice - Sophia Antipolis fax: 93 52 98 48 Parc Valrose Nice, FRANCE
Re: Printer showing up as user
Author: Bernhard Nocker
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:05
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:05
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In article <1992Jul28.124526.6483@taloa.unice.fr> kjartan@ecu.unice.fr
(Kjartan Pierre Emilsson) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I've had a small problem with NetInfo recently. Somehow, a Printer
showed
> up as a network user, and there is absolutely no way that I can get it
out
> of there. I've tried to delete it directly in the NetInfoManager, but
> once I press delete, the entry remains, and if I select it again, I get
an
> error message, about some problems with the browser. I then tried to
read
> the entry directly using niutil, but get an invalid Id answer. How did
> this beast show up anyway ? And how do I zap it ?
>
> Thanks
> -Kjartan
>
> --
> Kjartan Pierre Emilsson e-mail:
kjartan@ecu.unice.fr
> Non-Linear Institute of Nice tel.: 93 52 98 36
> Universite de Nice - Sophia Antipolis fax: 93 52 98 48
> Parc Valrose
> Nice, FRANCE
For those that do not have access to Technical Alerts, check the
following:
==============================================================
NeXT Technical Alert 92-1
Supersedes NeXT Technical Alert 91-3
Summary
A loop in a NetInfo database can be erroneously created; deleting
this loop will destroy the information in the database. One way
loops are created is by destroying erroneous duplicate directories.
Status
This Technical Alert supersedes NeXT Technical Alert 91-3, on the
same topic. In this alert, the problem and preventative measure
described in NTA 91-3 are documented; in addition, a program to
fix this problem is described.
Description
Under various circumstances that can be encountered during normal
operations, duplicate directories can be created in a NetInfo
domain. For example, a subdirectory of /printers might show up in
/machines. This can occur using the high-level manager applications
(such as PrintManager) as well us using other tools.
This duplicate entry is benign, unless it's deleted. If this
duplicate entry is deleted a loop will be formed in the database.
When using NetInfoManager, this loop will appear as dir:0 in a
directory. This loop will lead to NetInfo failures and long delays
in retrieving information from NetInfo. If the loop is deleted,
the NetInfo database may be destroyed and you'll have to revert to
a backup copy.
Preventative Measure
A file called checksum is created by netinfod (the NetInfo server
daemon) when it shuts down in a controlled fashion. This checksum
file, one per NetInfo database, is written in the .nidb directory;
its presence tells netinfod to assume that the database is
consistent.
As a preventative measure, this file can be removed at system
startup time, before netinfod is run; this will force netinfod to
check through the entire database, which will prevent new duplicates
from appearing.
Warning: This measure is preventative only. It will not
correct existing loops. If you have a NetInfo database with a loop,
see the section on Corrective Measure, below.
This preventative should be applied on each machine that's the
master NetInfo server for a domain, except for machines that serve
only a local domain. Even though these symptoms can appear in any
NetInfo domain, network-wide or otherwise, it's rare to see them
in a machine's local domain. Although it's not a problem to implement
this workaround on any machine, the effort might not be worthwhile
on machines that don't serve a network-wide domain. Here's an
example:
Assume you have a network with three machines: master (which is
the master NetInfo server of the root domain), clone (a clone server
for the root domain), and client. The following table describes
which machines serve which domains, and in what capacity. Let's
further assume this is a two-level hierarchy.
Machine Domain Served Type of Server
master / Master Server
master /master Master Server
clone / Clone Server
clone /clone Master Server
client /client Master Server
In this configuration, we recommend applying the workaround to
master, assuming that the local domains for each machine won't be
modified very much. It's not necessary to apply the workaround to
clone: Even though it serves the root domain, it's a clone server
of the domain and thus obtains its authoritative information from
master.
To implement the workaround, edit the file /etc/rc. Find the
following lines (the first line shown is number 108 in the standard
/etc/rc file):
# Start up the netinfo daemon
if [ -f /usr/etc/nibindd ]; then
/usr/etc/nibindd && (echo -n ' netinfo') >/dev/console 2>&1
fi
Add a line (shown below in bold), so the above lines look like
this:
# Start up the netinfo daemon
if [ -f /usr/etc/nibindd ]; then
rm -f /private/etc/netinfo/*.nidb/checksum
/usr/etc/nibindd && (echo -n ' netinfo') >/dev/console 2>&1
fi
Note: To perform this procedure, you must be logged in as or sued
to root.
It's not necessary to reboot the machine; the next time it's shut
down or rebooted, the workaround will be in effect.
Note that if you implement this preventative measure, it will take
longer to start up the machines that are network-wide NetInfo
servers than before. It's also much more likely that you'll see
the following message:
The following network error has occurred:
Cannot find parent NetInfo server, still looking<
Press 'c' to continue without parent server.
See your system administrator if you need help.
This message is the result of the local domain's netinfod being
unable to communicate with the its parent domain's netinfod. This
is because the parent domain's netinfod is busy checking the
database's consistency, and isn't responding to requests from the
local domain to bind. Wait several minutes before pressing c to
continue.
Corrective Measure
A program called nifix is available that removes, in a benign
fashion, apparent duplicate directories and loops from a NetInfo
domain. This program is available over anonymous FTP from NeXT.COM
[129.18.1.2], in pub/Binaries/nifix.tar.Z. Be sure to retrieve this
file with ftp in binary mode. Authorized support Customers who do
not have Internet access may obtain a copy of nifix on floppy disk
from NeXT Technical Support, through their normal support channel.
The checksum for nifix.tar.Z (the output of the sum command) and
its contents once extracted should be as follows:
rhino% sum nifix.tar.Z nifix/*
14629 7 nifix.tar.Z
64307 16 nifix/nifix
00438 6 nifix/nifix-info.rtf
The compressed tar file contains two files: the executable program
nifix, which a UNIX-level command-line utility, and nifix-info.rtf,
a file with documentation on the program. Both of these files are
contained in a directory ./nifix in the tar archive.
For More Information
Contact your NeXT Authorized Support Provider for more information
about this problem. NeXT Authorized Support Customers should
contact NeXTedge Technical Support with questions.
=======================================================================
Best wishes,
Bernhard
--
Bernhard Nocker Beware root :-)
University of Salzburg's Department of Computing Studies
Jakob-Haringerstr. 5 5020 Salzburg Austria, Europe
+43-662-8044/6750 bnocker@cosy.sbg.ac.at
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