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3 total messages Started by Dale LaFountain Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14
HELP! No login window!
#568
Author: Dale LaFountain
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14
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I just finished reconfiguring our two-level NI domain into a
three-level domain.  For a small amount of time (about 24 hours),
this entire setup worked fine.   I followed all of the instructions 
in the Admin book and avoided the problems mentioned in NextAnswers.
The setup looks like this:

/ served by cheetah

/student - served by cheetah        /faculty - served by cheetah
cub - NFS server                      panther
jaguar - print server                 stray

The problem started when I moved a couple of nfs mounts from local
mount directories on jaguar, cheetah, and cub to the mounts directory
in the / domain.  When I rebooted any of these machines, they would
come all the way up, EXCEPT that the login window wouldn't show up.
Yes, I have a mounts directory in every level of my hierarchy, so it's
not that particular problem, although I encountered it the hard way
this weekend.  Note that I can log into these machines remotely and do
everything normally.  WindowServer and Loginwindow are both running,
too.

I managed to keep one of them up (cub) and tried to change things back
to their original setup.  However, even the original (functioning!) 
configuration didn't work.  

I also had to shift the mail server from cub to cheetah, since cub was
the old Netinfo and mail server before all this happened.  Now, nobody
except for cub can get mail through to cheetah.  And that mail gets
bounced through another machine in our domain called gate.oxy.edu,
when I have made no reference to it in cub's sendmail.sharedsub.cf!!
I changed all of the mailhost entries in /machines/host to the 
appropriate machine, moved the spool directory, fixed all of the 
sendmail.cf files, exported
cheetah's spool directory to everyone else, and restarted the sendmail
process.  All of the sharedsubsidiary machines have their DR and CR
set to cheetah, the new mail server.  What is wrong with this
picture?

I have placed a call to Next Tech. Support, who directed us to USC
Tech. support, who in turn told us to screw off unless we had a
service contract.  I called Next back again, and filed a report about
the above, and am waiting for them to return my call (hopefully
soon).

Does anyone have some helpful advice to offer?

Thanks in advance,

Dale LaFountain
System Admin, Math Dept.
Occidental College


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Dale LaFountain  +1 (213)341-4275 Occidental
prophet@oxy.edu  Math Major '92,   College
Re: HELP! No login window!
#605
Author: bob
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:20
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In article <1992Apr14.021447.28218@cheshire.oxy.edu>  
prophet@cheshire.oxy.edu (Dale LaFountain) writes:
> the login window wouldn't show up.
I recently experienced the same problem.  For most of my machines, the  
problem was solved by simply doing an rlogin from another machine on  
the network.  However, for one, the problem turned out to be a missing  
NextLibrary/Fonts file.  I discovered this problem by doing an rlogin  
from another machine and then trying Edit -NXHost [whereiwas].  The  
error message pointed me to the fact that some font files could not be  
found.  When those were made available, the Login Panel also became  
available.

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	-Bob

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	Robert L. Hartley, Jr.
	MARTIN WADE HARTLEY & HOLLINGSWORTH
	P. O. Box 88676
	3590 N. Meridian St.
	Indianapolis, IN  46208-0676

	(317) 924-6700
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	UUCP:	uunet!mwhhlaw!bob
	ABA/net:	HARTLEYR
	ATTMAIL:	attmail!mwhhlaw!bob
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	-Bob

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Re: HELP! No login window!
#612
Author: Dale LaFountain
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:18
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In article <1992Apr16.122038.3161@mwhhlaw.uucp> uunet!mwhhlaw!bob writes:
>prophet@cheshire.oxy.edu (Dale LaFountain) writes:
>> the login window wouldn't show up.
>
>I recently experienced the same problem.  For most of my machines, the  
>problem was solved by simply doing an rlogin from another machine on  
>the network.  However, for one, the problem turned out to be a missing  
>NextLibrary/Fonts file.  I discovered this problem by doing an rlogin  
>from another machine and then trying Edit -NXHost [whereiwas].  The  
>error message pointed me to the fact that some font files could not be  
>found.  When those were made available, the Login Panel also became  
>available.
>	
>	-Bob
>	Robert L. Hartley, Jr.
>	UUCP:	uunet!mwhhlaw!bob
>	ABA/net:	HARTLEYR
>	ATTMAIL:	attmail!mwhhlaw!bob
>-- 

Yes, Bob, you are exactly right.  We happened to change the mount
point for /NextLibrary, so Loginwindow couldn't find it.  Problem
fixed.

BUT WAIT!!!!


Now we are having more problems.  It started when I was fixing the
Net Printer with NetinfoManager.  I deleted an unneeded entry in the
NI directory /students/jaguar printers, and instead of deleting the
entry, it replaced my entry with 'dir:0'.  Recognizing this directory
as 'master', I luckily hesitated to delete this aberration.  I went
back to the Browser and made a backup of /etc/netinfo, and then
went back and deleted the printers directory, hoping that it wouldn't
follow the obviously corrupted pointer.  However, it did, and I lost
most of the Netinfo database.  So I restored it from a copy, and
rebooted, so as to restore the old database.  I played with a few more
things, and finally decided to just nuke the whole directory and snag
a fresh copy from /usr/lib/client/etc/netinfo.  I did that, keeping a
backup of the corrupted one.  

Upon a reboot, I get the message:

cannot load /etc/mach_init, errno 20
cannot load /etc/init, errno 20
{lots of other address error messages deleted}

panic>

Note that I did not touch either /etc/init or /etc/mach_init (both
links) nor did I touch /usr/etc/mach_init or /usr/etc/init (where the
two links point).  There are no mounts at this point in the boot
(about 5 seconds after the system test), so I don't think anything is
getting mounted on top of /usr.

To make matters worse, we tried making this damaged machine Netboot
from our Netinfo server (another slab), and now the Netinfo server is
getting the same errors (I don't know the exact detail of how this
happened as another admin was trying this).

Does ANYONE know what could have caused this problem, and how we may
be able to solve it?  The other three machines on our network (the NFS
server machine and two non-Netbooting clients) are all sitting with no
login window again.  The /NextLibrary/Fonts link comes from another 
subnet, so I don't think that it is being caused by that problem.

We have been in contact with NeXT, but are still waiting to be
'processed'.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Please email responses.

Thanks,

Dale LaFountain
-- 
Dale LaFountain  +1 (213)341-4275 Occidental
prophet@oxy.edu  Math Major '92,   College
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