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Started by Steven M. Boker
Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:33
NeXT mail via SLIP
Author: Steven M. Boker
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:33
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:33
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I have a question for those of you who have been using SLIP. We are setting up SLIP for a number of our professors who have NeXT machines at home as well as at work. They prefer to read their mail using the NeXT Mail GUI. Has anyone a list of practical do's and don'ts for setting up a mail client over a SLIP line? The SLIP server is also the mail server for our NetInfo cluster. I assume that I could go ahead and make the same NFS mounts that I normally would for a mail client, but I have heard that NFS can be troublesome over SLIP. What is the common net wisdom on this? Steve -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # smb3u@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
Re: NeXT mail via SLIP
Author: Bob Sutterfield
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:03
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:03
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In article <1992Aug20.173310.4492@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes: We are setting up SLIP for a number of our professors who have NeXT machines at home as well as at work. They prefer to read their mail using the NeXT Mail GUI. Has anyone a list of practical do's and don'ts for setting up a mail client over a SLIP line? The SLIP server is also the mail server for our NetInfo cluster. I assume that I could go ahead and make the same NFS mounts that I normally would for a mail client, but I have heard that NFS can be troublesome over SLIP. What is the common net wisdom on this? Unless you turn on UDP checksumming on both the NFS server and the NFS client (note: these aren't necessarily the endpoints of the SLIP link, these are the NFS-level endpoints), it's unsafe to run NFS over a SLIP link. Since the SLIP protocol incorporates no error detection, the SLIP driver can unknowingly hand damaged packets up to IP, which will hand them up to UDP, which will (lacking a checksum or CRC check) hand them to NFS, where the corrupted data will be silently included in your file. This has happened to me, even over error-correcting modems, and it wasn't pleasant. End-to-end data errors can be introduced by factors other than telephone line noise - e.g. UART overruns. This isn't a problem for TCP applications, which can safely assume that TCP's checksums will provide them with a reliable, sequenced, error-free data stream. If a damaged frame arrives, TCP will discard it, and the retransmission algorithms will ensure that it is eventually delivered clean. You have several alternatives: 1) Turn on UDP checksumming on the NFS server and clients. I don't know how to do this on NeXT systems. It may already be turned on by default, or it may be non-turn-on-able. 2) Use PPP rather than SLIP, because PPP provides a 16-bit CRC on each frame for packet-level error detection. A damaged packet is discarded by the PPP driver, before it can be handed up to IP and then on up the protocol stack. Higher-level layers worry about retransmissions. Both PPP and SLIP can be had either for free, or from commercial providers, for your NeXTs. 3) Make a local mail spool on each home machine, and use normal SMTP delivery between each node's sendmail. This is perhaps the most straightforward to implement, but could become a hassle because of all those standalone machines running in unmanageable locations. You'll probably want to configure the remotes to hand their outgoing mail to the central site for delivery, so you at least stand a chance of getting their headers right before they head outside your domain. 4) Run the NeXT mail application on the office server, with its display redirected to the home machine's window server. 5) Use a mail management protocol like POP or IMAP, for which servers and nice clients exist for NeXTs. I don't know if those clients provide all the features your users now enjoy in NeXT's Mail app. Our home systems use (2) and (3), and occasionally (4) for other applications.
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