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Re: Tape back up of Novell on IBM PCs

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From: Brian K. Voorhes
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:00
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In article <4lib8d$c4e@charlie.lif.icnet.uk>,
   evansr@europa.lif.icnet.uk (Richard Evans) wrote:
>Dennis (richmond@deepcove.com) wrote:
>: I've just heard that when you do a tape backup of a Novell 
networked 
>: system, that the backup cannot save the settings that Novell 
has such 
>: as various log scripts and users etc. Is this true? Is it true 
only for 
>: some tape backups or for all tape backups? And why? This would 
be 
>: terrible news if my server crashes and I have to start from 
scratch 
>: recreating users, scripts etc. It also makes no sense.
>
>: Has anyone else heard of this?
>
>: Inquiring minds want to know.
>
>: Dennis
>: admin@rihsc.bc.ca
>
>Novell login scripts, passwords etc. are stored in special files 
called
>Bindary files. Some backup systems can backup there files, some 
can't.
>You will have to check the documentation for your software.
>
>If your system does not backup Bindary files, then I don't know 
how you
>can get around this problem. Perhaps sombody could post a 
solution?
>
>Hope this answers your question.
>
>Richard.
The simplest way to get the Bindery using a standard backup is to 
login as supervisor, or equivalent and run the utility BINDFIX 
twice. This will, on the first pass, fix any errors in the 
bindery and back up the bad bindery in the three files net$*.old. 
When you run it the second pass, it stores the good bindery in 
these same *.old files in the system directory. Then, if your 
backup has access to the system directory, it will save the *.old 
files.

	For a disaster recovery, you can then re-install the OS, 
extract the 3 *.old files (ONLY) from your backup, put them in 
the system directory and then run BINDREST to restore the old 
bindery. Then you can restore the data files to the system. This 
method fixes the login script type issues, but you will lose the 
individual trustee assignments for your files system. Look for a 
program call trstsave, or strustee, located on some of the 
ftp.novell.com mirror sites to save trustee rights.

	Of course, all of this assumes you are using Netware 
version 3.11 or 3.12. After you have gone through all of this 
effort though, you may find that a moderately better tape backup 
will store the bindery and trustee rights during backup. When we 
have someone who is unwilling to go to the expense of a 
server-based backup (I absoluelt recommend these, but they are 
expensive) we generally use one of the Conner Tape-Stor drives 
with Backup Exec (Warning, some of the conner's came with Backup 
lite, which would refuse to see networked drives).

Brian K. Voorhes, CNE
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From: briboy@i2020.net (Brian K. Voorhes)
Subject: Re: Tape back up of Novell on IBM PCs
Date: 1996/04/28
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