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Re: Telnet on Token-Ring (NetWare) LAN

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From: Brian Meek
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1991 05:30
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In article <1991Oct16.151144.34595@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> rnfocus@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I have IBM PC's physically connected using IBM Token Ring.  By including an 
>ethernet card in the server, we are able to communicate with other servers
>on our backbone.

Assuming you're talking about a NetWare v3.11 server, forwarding IP packets
between your Token-Ring and Ethernet segments will not be a problem.

>We are not, however, able to use Telnet or TN3270.  On our ethernet PC's, we
>use a WD8003E packet driver to make this possible.  Is there something like
>that packet driver for a Token Ring card?  Or is there some other way to allow
>use of Telnet and TN3270.

As others have noted in response to this query, a Packet Driver (IBMTOKEN) 
has been written to IBM's LAN Support drivers that will masquerade as a 
class 1 Packet Driver (since few Telnet applications actually support class 
3 Token-Ring Packet Drivers).  At the expense of some memory, this approach
will allow you to run the same applications that you are using on your
Ethernet PCs over the WD8003E Packet Driver...  For IPX support in this
scenario, do *not* bother trying to use the BYU IPX drivers that you're
using on Ethernet, IBMTOKEN is not prepared to process the packets handed
down from the "BYU Shell".  Instead, you would create an IPX.COM specif-
ically for IBM LAN Support using the WSGEN process... or better yet,
use the ODI driver called "LANSUP.COM" to support IPX and the NetWare shell
alongside your IBMTOKEN Packet Driver adapter.

I should also include the "Official Novell" approach to your basic question.
To run Telnet and NetWare on a Token-Ring LAN (or any topology), you should 
use LAN WorkPlace for DOS (a TCP/IP product for DOS and Windows machines 
from Novell).  This product includes two ODI drivers for you to choose from
in supporting NetWare and TCP/IP over Token-Ring simultaneously.  LANSUP.COM,
which I already mentioned, uses the IBM LAN Support drivers (if you need 
them) and allows Novell IPX and TCP/IP protocol stacks to be run gracefully
alongside an IBM stack such as NetBEUI.  The other, TOKEN.COM will allow you 
to toss out the IBM LAN Support drivers and go right to the IBM Token-Ring
hardware with any combination of ODI-based Protocol stacks.

While it's not free, this LAN WorkPlace approach works well, and can be had 
very cheaply via educational discount programs (contact Janet Perry or 
Bruce Nelson for details: janetp@novell.com or bnelson@novell.com).

-- brian
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         Brian Meek       Novell, Inc. - 2180 Fortune Dr. San Jose, CA 95131
Internet mail: brian@novell.COM                        Phone: (408) 473-8375
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From: brian@novell.com (Brian Meek)
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Subject: Re: Telnet on Token-Ring (NetWare) LAN
Summary: No problem...
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