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Article #7907Re: CNE'S Are you out there?
From: Jon Courage
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 1995 18:59
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 1995 18:59
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There is an easy solution to the seemingly endless debate "re: CNE/worthwhile?", that perhaps Novell should note: Require, as for the CPA designation, proof of comprehensive hands-on experience. There are many ways this can be obtained, and would virtually eliminate the "paper CNE" problem (it *is* a problem, both for real CNEs and prospective employers). Also, I don't get the impression that CNEs (at least, "real" ones) are "sufficiently thick on the ground". My recent job hunting experience netted me substantial offers at several _major_ firms within _2.5_ weeks of looking, and that in NYC! Seems to me demand is quite healthy. In article <3j3e5r$54m@crl9.crl.com> jrindos@crl.com (Jim Rindos) writes: >From: jrindos@crl.com (Jim Rindos) >Subject: Re: CNE'S Are you out there? >Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:31:07 -0800 >: >However, in busines terms, this would be a waste of my time, particularly >: >as I feel that CNEs are sufficiently thick on the ground >: >to be able to hire them when I need them. >: If you're that good, you should be able to pass all of the exams in a single >: day, which would be a VERY SMALL waste of time indeed. >: -- >Hey folks, let's face it - the CNE, CNA, ECNE, CNI were all tossed as bones >by Novell to their distributor network. Dealer margins on NetWare went way >down when Novell increased the number of distributors. Likewise, when >every mom and pop got into the "network integration" business >profitability dropped to single digits. Novell needed a way to keep their >retail distributors happy and so they gave them a high markup item >called 'educational services'. The margins were great. All the dealers >had to do was hire someone and start charging a grand a person a day for >certification classes. The dealers loved it and so got on the CNE >bandwagon. Today the result (quite naturally) is that the market is >flooded with "paper CNE's" who (very possibly) passed all of the exams >without ever having sat down and set up or configured a NetWare server in >their life!
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