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Re: CNE'S Are you out there?

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From: Jon Courage
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 1995 18:59
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There is an easy solution to the seemingly endless debate "re: 
CNE/worthwhile?", that perhaps Novell should note:  Require, as for the CPA 
designation, proof of comprehensive hands-on experience.  There are many ways 
this can be obtained, and would virtually eliminate the "paper CNE" problem 
(it *is* a problem, both for real CNEs and prospective employers).  Also, I 
don't get the impression that CNEs (at least, "real" ones) are "sufficiently 
thick on the ground".  My recent job hunting experience netted me 
substantial offers at several _major_ firms within _2.5_ weeks of looking, and 
that in NYC!  Seems to me demand is quite healthy.


In article <3j3e5r$54m@crl9.crl.com> jrindos@crl.com (Jim Rindos) writes:
>From: jrindos@crl.com (Jim Rindos)
>Subject: Re: CNE'S Are you out there?
>Date: 1 Mar 1995 19:31:07 -0800

>: >However, in busines terms, this would be a waste of my time, particularly
>: >as I feel that CNEs are sufficiently thick on the ground
>: >to be able to hire them when I need them. 

>: If you're that good, you should be able to pass all of the exams in a single
>: day, which would be a VERY SMALL waste of time indeed.
>: -- 

>Hey folks, let's face it - the CNE, CNA, ECNE, CNI were all tossed as bones 
>by Novell to their distributor network. Dealer margins on NetWare went way 
>down when Novell increased the number of distributors. Likewise, when 
>every mom and pop got into the "network integration" business 
>profitability dropped to single digits. Novell needed a way to keep their 
>retail distributors happy and so they gave them a high markup item 
>called 'educational services'. The margins were great. All the dealers 
>had to do was hire someone and start charging a grand a person a day for 
>certification classes. The dealers loved it and so got on the CNE 
>bandwagon. Today the result (quite naturally) is that the market is 
>flooded with "paper CNE's" who (very possibly) passed all of the exams 
>without ever having sat down and set up or configured a NetWare server in 
>their life!   
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