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Re: J-OS or CJKOS or what for Japanese/English Palm IIIx use (key: Palm Pilot -- should've remained so named)

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From: Stuart Lester
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:00
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Thanks, great help

arrigatou goziamasu

stu


Tomoharu Nishino <tomoharu_nishino@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
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> Okay, here's the scoop:
>
> First, I have no experience with CJKOS, but if Japanese is what you
> want, then JOS is the way to go, anyway.
>
>
> The freeware (JOS 1.9) route:
>
> - Go to Mr. Tatsushi Yamada's homepage at:
> http://www.tt.rim.or.jp/~tatsushi/
>
> - Download both the J-OS 1.9 package and Erisa font.
>
> - Install the appropriate size dictionary file depending on the amount
> of free memory you have (dic-s.prc or dic-m.prc).  Install the
> appropriate program file depending on the version of your Palm OS
> (j-os10.prc for 1.0 users, j-os20.prc for 2.0 or 3.0 users).
>
> - Install the Erisa font.
>
> - Install whatever localizers you want (these files turn the menus and
> such in the various built in in apps into Japanese).  You don't need to
> use them if you don't want all your apps to become Japanese.
>
> - Soft reset, and turn JOS on in hackmaster.  You should now be able to
> input Japanese (by tapping on the "abc" dot in the bottom left corner of
> the graffiti area) in any of the built in apps, as well as view Japanese
> in other apps that support them (J-Doc, Palmscape, etc.).
>
> - You can also add a single custom dictionary words using a special
> entry in the memopad.
>
>
> The commercial ware (JOS IIIx) route:
>
> - J-OS IIIx is a substantially improved version of J-OS now sold as
> commercial ware.   In Japan, you can purchase it at Ikeshop
> (http://www.ikeshop.co.jp/) and in the US, you can purchase it from Ark
> USA (http://www.arkusa.com/palm/).  It goes for about $50 US.
>
> - Differences of JOS IIIx over the freeware version according to the
> author include:
>
> 1. You can now use the on-screen keyboard for inputting English (JOS1.9
> basically replaces the keyboard with a Japanese input panel).  It is
> also now compatible with PiloKey (and the Landware keyboards).
> 2. The kanji conversion algorithm is smarter.
> 3. Delete, select, cursor movements now happen properly.  (It
> differentiates between double byte and single byte text properly for on
> screen handling.)
> 4. Sort and find features work properly.
> 5. The input panel is improved, and has been made more friendly for left
> handed people.
> 6. There is now a large Japanese font included.  And it can handle up to
> four Japanese fonts.
> 7. You can now do inline (as opposed to in a window) input.
> 8. There is now a diagnostic feature that tells you if everything is
> properly installed.
> 9. Now properly handles English wordwrapping when installed.
> 10. No longer a HackMaster extention, and all files can be burnt into
> Flash memory.
> 11. You can use up to 15 custom dictionaries.
> 12. You can still use localizers for various apps, but now it is easier
> to enable/disable them (1.9 requires that you install/deinstall them).
> 13. Various minor bug fixes.
>
>
> So which should people use?  Well, if you only use Japanese very
> infrequently (and mostly read Japanese, as opposed to inputting it),
> then J-OS 1.9 should meet your needs.  It is less convenient than the
> commercial ware version, and a bit klunky, but it is an amazing piece of
> software, and it gets the job done.
>
> On the other hand, if you routinely use Japanese, then using the
> commercial ware version is well worth the investment.  The improvements
> are, as you can tell, quite numerous, and the usability is considerably
> improved.  It behaves as if the Palm was designed to do this from the
> beginning.  It is a very good piece of software.
>
> I would suggest downloading the freeware version, and if you can live
> with its limitations, then just use that.  You can always move up to the
> commercial ware version.  And it does give you Japanese capabilities
> immediately.
>
> Also, it should be noted that J-OS III was upgraded recently to include
> support for the IIIx and V.  I am not entirely positive that the
> freeware version is fully compatible with the most recent Palm machines,
> although it does support the 3.0 OS.
>
> Finally, if you want to input Japanese into your Palm using the desktop:
> There is a quick and easy patch that you can apply to the Mac version of
> the desktop app that allows Japanese input via JLK.  As for Windows, I'm
> not positive about this, but there should be a similar patch as well
> (and you might even be able to get the fully localzied Japanese version
> of the software from IBM Japan).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Tomoharu Nishino
> tomoharu_nishino@post.harvard.edu
>
> Stuart Lester <slester@nospam.gol.com> wrote:
>
> > I face the same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > I tried CJKOS. It currently takes 194k of memory in my Palm V with the
> > fonts. There doesn't seem to be an input method for Japanese however.
> >
> > It displays Japanese just great. Better than the Japanese addon for US
> > Outlook in fact.I use WinNT.
> >
> > Onegaishimasu
> >
> > stu
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Subject: Re: J-OS or CJKOS or what for Japanese/English Palm IIIx use (key: Palm Pilot -- should've remained so named)
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