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Article #171Re: J-OS or CJKOS or what for Japanese/English Palm IIIx use (key: Palm Pilot -- should've remained so named)
From: Stuart Lester
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:00
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Thanks, great help arrigatou goziamasu stu Tomoharu Nishino <tomoharu_nishino@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:1dx350x.an1zat1jjz800N@233.mercerville-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net.. . > Okay, here's the scoop: > > First, I have no experience with CJKOS, but if Japanese is what you > want, then JOS is the way to go, anyway. > > > The freeware (JOS 1.9) route: > > - Go to Mr. Tatsushi Yamada's homepage at: > http://www.tt.rim.or.jp/~tatsushi/ > > - Download both the J-OS 1.9 package and Erisa font. > > - Install the appropriate size dictionary file depending on the amount > of free memory you have (dic-s.prc or dic-m.prc). Install the > appropriate program file depending on the version of your Palm OS > (j-os10.prc for 1.0 users, j-os20.prc for 2.0 or 3.0 users). > > - Install the Erisa font. > > - Install whatever localizers you want (these files turn the menus and > such in the various built in in apps into Japanese). You don't need to > use them if you don't want all your apps to become Japanese. > > - Soft reset, and turn JOS on in hackmaster. You should now be able to > input Japanese (by tapping on the "abc" dot in the bottom left corner of > the graffiti area) in any of the built in apps, as well as view Japanese > in other apps that support them (J-Doc, Palmscape, etc.). > > - You can also add a single custom dictionary words using a special > entry in the memopad. > > > The commercial ware (JOS IIIx) route: > > - J-OS IIIx is a substantially improved version of J-OS now sold as > commercial ware. In Japan, you can purchase it at Ikeshop > (http://www.ikeshop.co.jp/) and in the US, you can purchase it from Ark > USA (http://www.arkusa.com/palm/). It goes for about $50 US. > > - Differences of JOS IIIx over the freeware version according to the > author include: > > 1. You can now use the on-screen keyboard for inputting English (JOS1.9 > basically replaces the keyboard with a Japanese input panel). It is > also now compatible with PiloKey (and the Landware keyboards). > 2. The kanji conversion algorithm is smarter. > 3. Delete, select, cursor movements now happen properly. (It > differentiates between double byte and single byte text properly for on > screen handling.) > 4. Sort and find features work properly. > 5. The input panel is improved, and has been made more friendly for left > handed people. > 6. There is now a large Japanese font included. And it can handle up to > four Japanese fonts. > 7. You can now do inline (as opposed to in a window) input. > 8. There is now a diagnostic feature that tells you if everything is > properly installed. > 9. Now properly handles English wordwrapping when installed. > 10. No longer a HackMaster extention, and all files can be burnt into > Flash memory. > 11. You can use up to 15 custom dictionaries. > 12. You can still use localizers for various apps, but now it is easier > to enable/disable them (1.9 requires that you install/deinstall them). > 13. Various minor bug fixes. > > > So which should people use? Well, if you only use Japanese very > infrequently (and mostly read Japanese, as opposed to inputting it), > then J-OS 1.9 should meet your needs. It is less convenient than the > commercial ware version, and a bit klunky, but it is an amazing piece of > software, and it gets the job done. > > On the other hand, if you routinely use Japanese, then using the > commercial ware version is well worth the investment. The improvements > are, as you can tell, quite numerous, and the usability is considerably > improved. It behaves as if the Palm was designed to do this from the > beginning. It is a very good piece of software. > > I would suggest downloading the freeware version, and if you can live > with its limitations, then just use that. You can always move up to the > commercial ware version. And it does give you Japanese capabilities > immediately. > > Also, it should be noted that J-OS III was upgraded recently to include > support for the IIIx and V. I am not entirely positive that the > freeware version is fully compatible with the most recent Palm machines, > although it does support the 3.0 OS. > > Finally, if you want to input Japanese into your Palm using the desktop: > There is a quick and easy patch that you can apply to the Mac version of > the desktop app that allows Japanese input via JLK. As for Windows, I'm > not positive about this, but there should be a similar patch as well > (and you might even be able to get the fully localzied Japanese version > of the software from IBM Japan). > > Hope this helps. > > Tomoharu Nishino > tomoharu_nishino@post.harvard.edu > > Stuart Lester <slester@nospam.gol.com> wrote: > > > I face the same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I tried CJKOS. It currently takes 194k of memory in my Palm V with the > > fonts. There doesn't seem to be an input method for Japanese however. > > > > It displays Japanese just great. Better than the Japanese addon for US > > Outlook in fact.I use WinNT. > > > > Onegaishimasu > > > > stu
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