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In article <41i3e5$j3n@sashimi.wwa.com>, hucke@sashimi.wwa.com (Matt
Hucke) wrote:

> rmcassid@uci.edu (Robert Cassidy) writes:
> 
[snip]
> > Since UNIX doesn't give a damn if you
> >delete half of your hard drive without warning you, or care if anybody on
> >the planet can get root access to your system - that makes it dangerous
> >for novices.
>
> At least Unix has the concept of a separate 'root' login.  A new user
> that doesn't know that password won't be able to do much harm.  On
> Windoze or a Mac, there is no security, and anyone can delete or alter
> vital files - typing 'edit win.ini' or dragging some application's
> folder to the trash, or deleting someone else's documents.




Wrong.  The Mac has several ways to protect files.  Just because you don't
have to log in doesn't mean you can't protect things.  You can get At Ease
(Free with all shipping Macs) and then you do have to log in.  Or you can
do like my school, get a control panel that locks the names positions of
files in the finder except on floppies which can't be turned off without a
password.  And with this method you don't even have to log off and then
log back on again if you don't happen to have logged on a root.  Why
should someone have to log in to their own computer?  I get by just fine
without having to log on and off and creating an account for everyone who
uses the computer.  If you need such security you can get it but if you
don't then it's not there taking up disk and RAM space.




> I was in a Radio Shack[tm] last week, and the PC there was refusing to
> run windows because of a memory manager problem.  The Radio Shack[tm]
> drones couldn't figure it out, so they ignored it... I called up an
> editor and fixed the typo in config.sys... it would have been just as
> easy to do something malicious.  If that had been a Unix box, the
> password would have been required to fix it, but it wouldn't have been
> messed up in the first place.



I can't speak for DOS/Windows but as for Macs see above.



> > Do you prefer exposed
> >wires in your home (you should know not to touch them) or do you keep them
> >under layers of protection (just in case you accidentally touch them)? 
> 
> I prefer to have the layers insulated, but somewhere that they can be
> reached if maintenance is needed, rather than sealed beneath a layer
> of concrete.




Which is exactly the way the Mac OS is.  You might not be able to see the
wires but they're there, behind the walls.

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