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Re: JUST REMEMBER WHY WINDOWS WAS CREATED!!!!!!!!!

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From: Juergen Wahlmann
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:46
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In article <42sid2$fq0@orion.cybercom.net> jerry@cybercom.net (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>From: jerry@cybercom.net (Jerry Shekhel)
>Subject: Re: JUST REMEMBER WHY WINDOWS WAS CREATED!!!!!!!!!
>Date: 9 Sep 1995 17:20:34 GMT

>Juergen Wahlmann (ibl-juwa@wiso.wiso.uni-dortmund.de) wrote:

>: Please tell me what functionality do you mean?
>: MultiUser, Memory protection, virtual memory, the ability to switch the 
>: display to other terminals or workstations? 
>:

>The first three at least.

>:
>: Agreed, but that are functions a home user OS most likely do not need.
>:

>Why not?  Is a home user never going to run a program with bugs?  (Hint:
>all non-trivial programs have bugs).  Is a home user never going to run
>several programs at once, or edit a large image or document, or do something
>else which may overcommit physical RAM?  Is a home user never going to do
>any kind of programming on his/her computer, hoping the whole system doesn't
>go down due to a programming error?  Will a home computer always be used by
>only one person?  Do people never use their home computers to do real work?

It's in the hands of the programmers to avoid shipping buggy software with 
their whole power. Sounds a bit idealistic, I know, but so it has to be.

I have had 8MB of RAM installed in my Amiga and I only used virtual RAM for 
image processing. Even running the Raytracer, the word processor and TeX 
together does not fill up my memory. I've then add 8MB to do more image 
processing and since this time I'd never uses VM again.

Useful software must not be as bloated and recource hungry as MS always states.

There is a MultiUserFileSystem available (as Shareware) that supports more 
than one user. At least the security is not worth a blink, but I trust my 
family to not destroy any of my data. To set up different user bases it's very 
good.

I do real work everyday with my Amiga.

>:
>: I have nothing against UNIX, with all it's abilities it's the OS I would 
>: prefer against all other PC OS's (unless there is AmigaOS available).
>:

>Fine.  But please don't tell me that AmigaOS is *better* than UNIX simply
>because it chose to leave out a whole bunch of features in order to save
>some memory back in the days when it cost hundreds of dollars per megabyte.

Curious. Just that mentality provides you with more and more bloated PC-OS's. 
Why should a system developer write an efficient OS when all the people runs 
into the shops to buy more RAM, bigger HD's and a faster processor? Why must I 
have a Pentium with 100MHz to perform my tasks as fast as on my Amiga with a 
68040/28MHz? Very curious...

Memory costs a few hundred D-marks per 4MB yet. Too much for me and many 
others who want a computer but also a real life. 

BTW, Unix runs smooth in 16MB of Ram, AmigaOS in 4MB. That's more than "some 
memory", isn't it? 

System performance depends on the data throughput. The lesser the OS swaps the 
faster it is. That's one great advantage of AmigaOS over other OS's.

>By the way, when you figure in the amount of OS code sitting in 
ROM on an>Amiga, AmigaOS's overall memory usage isn't all that great.

512kb. I figured it in because my system copies the ROM into the fast 32 bit 
ram to increase system performance, so the memory usage is "over all"

Cheers,
   Juergen "Yogi Bear" Wahlmann

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Subject: Re: JUST REMEMBER WHY WINDOWS WAS CREATED!!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:46:21 LOCAL
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