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David Cake (davidc@cs.uwa.edu.au) wrote:

: >] Every week that I spend having to tune my Unix box, is a week
: >] of real work lost.
: >
: >You wouldn't need to tune it if you had left it tuned in the
: >first place, or were trying to use it beyond the scope of the
: >tuned configuration from the install.

:    Which exactly illustrates the problem with Unix. Most of the vaunted
: power and configuarability is available only to people with a very large
: amount of time and knowledge (usually someone that does nothing but Unix
: system adminstrate). Which makes it a very expensive solution. A Mac might
: not be as powerful as a Unix box, but you can do all the system
: administration for a dozen Macs (including system updates, retuning,
: networking... the whole lot) in well and truly less than an afternoon a
: week. And that is presuming that your users are often installing new
: stuff. But a Unix system with a dozen excitable users (that keep wanting
: new stuff all the time) will keep a sys admin run of their feet. 

this is absolutly not true.  I run an ISP which has 4-5000 users, and a 
software development shop with 20 employee's.  All in all we have 10-15 
unix boxes at any one time, and I manage to administrate them all and 
still have time to read stupid OS war threads in Usenet

: >I can intentionally screw up a Mac too, but that wouldn't make
: >arguments about having to undo screwups any more valid.
: >
:    But a very small amount of computer knowledge would allow you to fix
: the Mac quite quickly, in most cases (reinstall the system, Zap the PRAM,
: rebuild the desktop (not in that order) and your generally looking fine).
:    On the other hand, even a fairly simple mistake or hardware problem can
: often take a very large amount of Unix knowledge to fix up. 
:    Cheers

how many mac users know how to zap the PRAM......

the fact is that they are two different worlds.  You can't use Macs for 
many things you can use unix machines for.  And a properly administered 
unix box can do everything a Mac can and much much more.

--
Matthew E Cable // Phantom Access Technologies // Evolution Online Systems
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