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Summers@Ethyl-the-Frog.ARC.NASA.gov (David P. Summers) wrote:

>Both wrong and off topic.  1) 12MB is plenty for a new system
>(maybe PC applications are all bloated but it's fine for a Mac).

12M on a PC will go further than 12M on a Mac.  
Note I'm not considering RamDoubler in my opinion.
Apple has -got- to clean up their VM scheme.  It's horrible.  

>Heck there are people in my branch going just fine with 8 Meg.

680x0 or PM?  

>> b) I'm bashing Apples decision to constantly ship systems that
>>    are difficult and or limited in how that can be upgraded.
>>    Upgradibility is a premium feature for Apple systems.  

>How is it "difficult" to upgrade memory on an Mac.  You buy
>the simmms and stick them in.

I think he's talking about motherboard upgrades.  When I can add a
100Mhz Pentium motherboard to an older box for $600-700, that's a
definate plus.  Granted, certain parts will still be from the old
system and will be slower, but those can be upgraded as time and money
permit.  All that I can think of that I'd want to upgrade would be the
video, though.  PC upgrading is a nice benefit.

>First of all, the probably requiring tossing simms should be "probably
>not".  Every system I've seen shipped with at least one empty slots.
>You are trying to make a big deal out of RAM upgrades which are
>the most trivial thing I've heard of.

Agreed.  Lower-end budget Macs (and PCs, sure) have 1 SIMM socket.  If
you have 4M on the MB and 1 8M SIMM and decide you need more, you sell
the SIMM.  

>> We have some
>> MACse's around and some ][Ci`s but these systems are straining to run
>> apps that are functional with our PPC MAC's.

>The IIci will run most software just fine.  Several people in our
>branch have them and if they were forced to spend unecessary money
>on new machines because someone (like MS) stopped sopporting it
>they would be getting screwed.

IIcis are unusably slow for someone who has a job working on a
computer full time.  For occasional work it's bearable; for more, I
wouldn't waste my time.  The slowest machine we buy today is a 16M or
24M 6100/66.