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In article <4go55v$4b0@hobbes.lyseo.otol.fi>, mjr@lyseo.otol.fi (Mikko
Rauhala) wrote:

    Tom L. Davis (davis@adrs1.dseg.ti.com) wrote:
    : This certainly does not reflect my experience with unix machines. Just
    : today, my X-terminal crashed while trying to run a 3270 emulator. In my
    
    And what do your X-terminal crashes tell about Unix? Nothing.

I was speaking of the unix user experience. As far as I'm concerned, X
smells of unix. Just like tar and TCP/IP. Of course, they all can be
ported to other  platforms, even Macs.

    : experience, the ratio of Mac reboots to Sun reboots is no better than two
    : or three to one. Unix may not crash in the Mac sense of the word, but they
    : become unusable fairly often. The only solution seems to be a shutdown and
    : restart. Many times they can be taken down somewhat gracefully, but still
    : they must be rebooted. And they take a _lot_ longer to boot than MacOS.
    
    Heh. Reboot is the lazy way out. Sometimes when I don't bother to restart 
    some services from scratch myself I just reboot the computer to let the 
    startup scripts take care of it. Maybe this is the thing you're referring 
    to. If a Unix machine is capable of going down gracefully, you should be 
    able to get it up and running and fully functional without a reboot, even 
    if you had to kill next to all processes and start them over.
    
            - Mjr
    
    Mikko Rauhala | E-mail: mjr@lyseo.otol.fi | URL:
http://www.lyseo.otol.fi/~mjr
    Disclaimer:
    The opinions expressed above are mine and (hopefully) not those of the
    Microsoft Corporation (not that I have anything to do with the thing)

Well, which is easier: a real reboot or a manual, selective reboot? Which
requires an extremely sophisticated user? For that matter, I would bet
that a sophisticated Mac programmer could selectively restart errant
processes from MacsBug. 

Again, unix is certainly better than MacOs in reboot frequency. But it is
by no means immortal.

Tom