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Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???

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From: Dan Pop
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 02:07
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In <ted.oliver-1403960716070001@129.219.116.52> ted.oliver@asu.edu (Ted Oliver) writes:

>In article <danpop.826581877@rscernix>, danpop@mail.cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:
>
>> In <4i1lvn$899@meaddata.lexis-nexis.com> christw@meaddata.com
>(Christopher C. Wood) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <danpop.826424237@rscernix>, danpop@mail.cern.ch (Dan Pop) writes:
>> >
>> >|> Again, pure vapour vs shipping OS's and applications.  That's the best
>> >|> a MacOS fan can do today.  Can you say lame? 
>> >
>> >How many shipping WinNT/Win95-native applications are there?  I've
>> >been seeing counts around 200.  There are 1,500 native PowerMac
>> >applications, and around 10,000 MacOS applications.
>> 
>> Let's avoid comparing apples to oranges.  Compare MacOS (the currently
>> shipping version) applications with Windows 3.1 applications and
>> shipping 32-bit Windows applications with shipping Copland applications.  
>> What gives?
>> 
>Huh???!!!??
>
>Aren't NT and Win95 both currently shipping?

Yes, unlike their Mac equivalents, Gershwin and Copland, NT and Win95
are both shipping.

>When Copland arrives (holding my breath, of course ;-)), then perhaps it
>would be fair to compare Win3.1 apps vs. System 7 apps, and Copland-savvy
>apps with Win95/NT native apps. At this point in time, the comparison you
>suggest is ridiculous and illogical.

It's very logical and sensible.  It's based on "equivalent" PC and Mac
OS's:

MacOS 7.x -- Windows 3.x: no memory protection, no PMT
Copland   -- Win95:       limited memory protection and PMT, due to backward
                          compatibility requirements.
Gershwin  -- Win/NT:      full memory protection and PMT, limited backward
                          compatibility.

It's clearly not my fault that the Mac equivalents of Win95 and Win/NT
are not here and nobody knows when they'll be.  This doesn't mean that
MacOS 7.x apps can be meaningfully compared to Win95 or Win/NT apps.
Power or 68k, MacOS 7.x apps can be compared only to Win 3.x apps.

Dan
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Dan Pop
CERN, CN Division
Email: danpop@mail.cern.ch 
Mail:  CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland
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Subject: Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
Date: 15 Mar 96 02:07:41 GMT
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