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In article <cirby-2203960117170001@pm1-21.magicnet.net>,
Chad Irby <cirby@magicnet.net> wrote:
>rkswamy@eos.ncsu.edu (Ravi Krishna Swamy) wrote:
>
>> Huh?  Why do you not have to memorize the location of every file
>> and dir on your Mac?  Are we talking system files or your own
>> personal files and apps?  If you're talking about system files
>> then you're right to a certain extent.  For personal files, you'll
>> still be clicking looking for the files just like cd'ing with
>> a command line. 
>
>Nope- you'd be "cd pub <return> ls" (read) "cd bin <return> ls" et cetera...

No, I'd do cd pub<tab>   With set autolist turned on it will list all
the available dirs/files that I can look at.  If I specify cd pub/s<tab>
then it will only show the files starting with s.  If I don't put an
s then the pattern to match is everything so it essentially does an ls
for me.

>> If you're going to use a GUI for file finding
>> then I can use a text mode find command.  I *do* have all my
>> directories memorized, but that's because I create them in a logical
>> way and go to them all the time. 
>
>...and unless you're really silly about memorizing the paths, you're going
>to have to stop and look to see which directory name to type in next.

Call it silly if you want.  I suppose I should carry around a dictionary
with me all the time so that I don't memorize the meanings of words?

>> That doesn't mean that I can't use find and find my file just as 
>> fast as with a GUI find or clicking around looking for it.
>
>Okay- so find that file with the name you can't quite remember, in a
>directory that lives about five levels down, and open it.  Time yourself. 
>See if you can do it in under seven seconds.

Just did.  It took me five seconds.  I just kept hitting tab and it
gave me an "ls"

>> What are you trying to say?  Do I have both a /pub/bin/sim *and*
>> a /pub/bin/Simulators? 
>
>No- but you have an operating system that's case-sensitive... if you type
>/sim, it won't complete to /Simulators.  Especially if there's a
>/simulation_notes directory (or even a Simulation_Notes).

I like having case sensitivity.  But I agree to a certain extent.
There should be an option in the shell to have "ignore cases" for file
name completion.  Perhaps there already is such a thing.  I'll have
to check.

>> >This is *not* anywhere close to "Apple Menu... hold... drag... there-
>> >there- there- there- there- got it."
>> 
>> You're right.  I'm productive with tcsh+set autolist+bindkey -v
>> I'm not with a GUI file mangler.
>
>Well, maybe you should expand your horizons a bit.

I've tried using various GUI file managers and I always find myself
wasting more time scrolling on the down arrow buttons because the
number of files is huge.  Some file managers support the page
down key, but not all do.  Then there is the problem of what program
the file is linked to.  When you click on the file it launches
an associated application right?  Can you have multiple app links?
I heard OS/2 did this, but I don't know if the MacOS does.  If
I created a file in xpaint, then I want to be able to load it into
xv as well.  How do I do this from a GUI file manager when the file.gif
is what I see in front of me?  Do I still have to start up the other
nonlinked program and then do "file/load?"  

Ravi
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