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Christopher C. Wood (christw@meaddata.com) wrote:

Joe Ragosta (jragosta@dca.net) wrote:

: |> > > : Wrong-o. Look at the November, 1995 Byte Magazine. They
: |> > > : compared P6 and 604 boxes running commercial apps under
: |> > > : WinNT. The 604 won easily.

I replied:

: |> > > I did. They did not compare P6 and 604 boxes. You keep on
: |> > > telling me to look at Byte, which I did, and there was nothing
: |> > > there. 604 is a nice chip, "faster" than a P6? no.

Joe Ragosta countered with....

: |> > You didn't look very hard, then. Here, I'll make it easy for you:
: |> > http://www.byte.com/art/9511/sec9/art1.htm
: |> > The headline reads:
: |> > "Faster than P6 and Mips, slower than Alpha, the PowerPC 604
: |> > makes a mean NT workstation"
: |> > Is the problem that you can't read or that you think everyone
: |> > else is too stupid to check a reference?

Chris Wood interjected...

: Why do you think Joe is getting nasty?  David T. Wang's claim is
: clearly erroneous.  Joe was trying to get to the root of David
: T. Wang's problem.

Chris, which part of my assertion was erroneous?  
Joe's claim was .......

"PPC604 is faster than a P6 box when running commerical Applications"

The byte article listed above clearly did not support that assertion.
You need to read the article clearly before posting, else you may find
that you'll have to stick your foot in your mouth.

I invite everyone to read the above article and find where in that article 
did Byte support the claim, "PPC604 is faster than P6 running commercial
applications"?

: Nice try.  Here are the corrected figures:

: Let's talk actual systems, not estimated processor benchmarks.
: January 1996 Byte, Page 140 Graph "Raw Performance: The VIS-less Ultra
: I".  Sorted in order of integer performance:
: ----------------------------------------
: DeskStation Raptor 3 266 MHz Aplha 21164:                3.75, 4.49
: IBM Personal Computer Power Series 850, 133 MHz PPC 604: 2.90, 2.92
: Sun Ultra I Creator 3D Model 170 167 MHz UltraSparc:     2.18, 1.54
: Intel Reference System, 150 MHz Pentium Pro:             2.10, 2.60
: Netpower Fastseries MP 200 MHz Mips R4400:               2.03, 2.08

: PPC 604 is faster than Pentium Pro, even though the PPro is running at
: a higher clock speed.

The above are Bytemark scores.  Try again when either....

1) Bytemarks become a commercial application.

2) You or Joe Ragosta find an app that runs faster on a PPC604 box than
a P6 box.  Then you may try to make that assertion again.

Until then, Joe has no evidence to back up his assertion that.....
"PPC604 is faster than a P6 box running commerical Applications"
and you are just posting nonesense in support of his baseless claim. 

: Chris
: -- 
: Speaking only for myself, of course.
: Chris Wood    christw@lexis-nexis.com   cats@erinet.com