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Re: Gateway wanted to make clones/apple says no; was Re: Intel in trouble?

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From: Chung-Hsiung Yang
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 00:00
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In article <rbarris-2909951107340001@192.168.1.16>,
Rob Barris <rbarris@quicksilver.com> wrote:
>In article <DFoCGF.827@lut.ac.uk>, J.C.Highfield@lut.ac.uk (J.C.Highfield)
>wrote:
>> chyang@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chung-Hsiung Yang) writes:
>> >       Ideally, what people would really like to do is to buy SCSI
>> >controller from an company like Adaptec so that you could hook your
>> >PC SCSI-II disks or SUN-CD ROMS onto your Apple Macintosh.  But you
>> 
>> Since all Macintoshes come with SCSI controllers I doubt the market
>> is large enough to attract much attention. There are a couple of
>> add-on SCSI controllers available though.
>
>Over 50 companies have made their PCI products available on Power
>Macintosh. Among these are some companies like:
>
>  qLogic
>  Adaptec
>  DPT
>  ATTO
>  WD
>  FWB
>
>(These are just the ones that make Mac-compatible PCI SCSI controllers,
>contrary to the posting above).
>
>I found the other assertions to be completely unfounded, it is a very rare
>SCSI device that I can't plug into my Mac.  In our office alone we have
>drives from Quantum, IBM, Conner, Micropolis, Seagate, plus CDROM drives
>from Sony, Matsushita, Hitachi, Panasonic, and JVC. These all work on the
>Mac.


	Yes, I forgot to add that Apple did do a complete overhull
of their hardware design about 2years ago to "conform" to more of an 
"industry standard".  So many of the incompabilities are gone.  They
finally decided that why yes, we *should* use the same memory modeules
and devices controllers as everyone else to cut cost ( among other things).
By then try putting a 72pin Simm into my trusty Q700 then you'll know 
the problem. ( Damn!  I love that machine.  But God forbid if I try 
to expand that thing ).   And yes, the PCI bus ( which was designed by 
Intel BTW ) was incorporated out of market pressure. 

	However, my point was that does the attitude which caused 
the incompatibilities in the first place still exist at Apple.  
If so, it will be their Achilles heel.

- C.









 
 
>
>Rob Barris
>Quicksilver Software Inc.
>rbarris@quicksilver.com
>* Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
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From: chyang@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chung-Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Gateway wanted to make clones/apple says no; was Re: Intel in trouble?
Date: 1995/09/29
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