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Re: floppy eject buttons [was: What's a Real Computer?]

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From: Hotel California
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 07:11
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In article <danpop.807383895@rscernix>, Dan.Pop@mail.cern.ch (Dan Pop) wrote:

> Pure bullshit.  Nobody is a born Mac user.  If you have never used a

No, your drivel is pure bullshit. I must be nobody then.  (That is open to
debate.)

> computer with a GUI before, you're completely helpless in front of a Mac.
> All those "intuitive" actions aren't intuitive _at all_ if you don't know
> the Mac GUI philosophy.  If nobody told you about "drag and drop" and
> "double click", you don't have too many chances to discover them by
> yourself.

I discovered them by myself.  Of course I was about 12 at the time and I
know how slow older peoples minds are, they can't even program a VCR.  (I
heard that a study found about 15% of all VCRs still flash 12:00 because
the person doesn't know how to set the clock)  You discover the simple
stuff (like moving the mouse, clicking etc.) first and quickly discover
the rest with a minimum of instruction.

> Yes, it takes longer to learn how to use a power tool than a toy tool,
> but this doesn't mean that the toy tool is superior to the power tool.
> It just happens that for some people the power tool is not an option at
> all, so they have to use the toy tool.

In case you haven't noticed, a Mac is a powerful tool.  It just
masquerades as a toy tool for the newbies.  Ease of use is completely
divorced from power.

> Nobody became a Mac expert simply by "just playing around with the software
> for a little bit" instead of reading some books.  And the Mac books have
> the reputation of being rather thick.  The internals are a little bit
> more complicated than the GUI.  

Almost everything I know about using Macs (quite a lot actually) I learned
on my own without a manual by just playing around with the software to see
what it can do.  It was the second computer I had ever touched. (The first
being my old Commodore 64.  Not a smart decision on the part of my dad,
but oh well.)  

> Those who never read the manuals are those who are unable to make
> _effective_ use of their computers.  Take someone who's been using a
> typewriter for 20 years and put him in front of a wordprocessor,
> without any manual.  He will start using it as an electronic
> typewriter, not as a word processor, because the word processing
> features are not familiar concepts for him.

I make very effective use of my computer, thank you.  I am tired of your
attacks on my effectiveness with my computer.  I do things my computer
teachers can't do, all with out reading the manual for the most part.  I'm
the one they asked to design a three fold flyer for prospective students. 
And, I did it all with Claris Works.  It turned out really nice.  Also the
problem with the typist isn't learning the Mac, it's unlearning the
typewriter.

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Hotel California
hotelca@cris.com
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Subject: Re: floppy eject buttons [was: What's a Real Computer?]
Date: 3 Aug 1995 07:11:46 GMT
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