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Article #550Re: What sux about PowerMacs and Pentiums
From: V Teahan
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 1995 08:25
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 1995 08:25
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Matt Slot (fprefect@umich.edu) wrote: : Several observations: Buy an AMiga, it easier! : * These benchmarks are so funny when you realize that the x86 architecture : is over 15 years old, and that the P5 (and P6) have to bend over : backwards to maintain compatibility. Their hopes of building a fresh : architecture using VLIW are vaporous, and their heavy P5 marketing was : spoiled by their floating point fiasco/coverup a few months ago. : The 601 family has been established for years, and its course has been : firmly plotted up to the 620 -- while P5 users are still trying to : wring their CPUs for more speed. Yes PowerMacs run 68k code under : emulation (P5 does x86 in microcode), but the new DR emulator beats : any 68k-based Mac hands down. Within a year, the transition to the : strict PPC environment will be complete (in terms of MacOS, Toolbox, : and major apps)... pausing only to optimize their compilers for each : CPU. Meanwhile, P5 users will be spanning 3 generations (x86, P5, P6) : of processors (well, 2 if you drop x86) and planning how to deal with : the P7 at some point in the hazy future. : : * For the most part, the software and usability of each platform is the : same. Most users use a subset of the computer's functionality (word : processing, image manipulation, DTP, number-crunching, etc), they don't : run more than their dedicated app, some commications software, and an : occasional game. With this in mind, ease of use is most important for new : users, and power tools + shortcuts are important for experience users. : The standard argument against the Mac has been its lack of power tools, : which is just wrong: I argue that my custom software configuration has : as many cool shortcuts and macros as the local PC-whiz. However, ease of : use and compatibility has always been the difficulty for newbies : on the PC platform... whereas the Mac provides a nice consistent interface : and tool set, as well as plug-and-play compatibility. For expert users, : each machine is about equal, but otherwise the advantage is Mac. : * Running MS Word and Excel side by side on each platform is not an : accurate comparison of platform speed. Both products suffer an extra : level of emulation on the Mac in order to use a common code base (which : I am sure has been tweaked for WinTel). In fact, Word has lost its : marked dominance of the Mac word-processing market due to this fact -- : products like WordPerfect, etc, are ready to step up with similar : features. I mean, its like not MS has nothing to gain by weighting these : products differently -- any office manager who sees the product run : on the 2 platforms will be swayed to go Win. Hell, if I had an installed : base of 40+ secretaries, and committed thousands to Word already, it : would be difficult to justify switching to a new product for the office : than just biting the bullet and going strictly WinTel. : : * Apple is notorious for sporadic marketing, which is too bad considering : the flood of uninformed PC users touting their outdated "Mac limitations". : Its unfortunate that the world thinks Win95 is a computing revolution, : when the most that many users will find is a prettier (more Mac-like) : interface. Its the guts of the system that are holding back the computer... : hell, Apple has had most of the Win95 changes since its System 7.0. And : Copland is going to beat the NT update, providing more functionality and : appearance improvments. God I hate these "well, its coming in the next : system", but listening to so much Win95 hype in the last year has rubbed : off. : : * Apple has also been flamed for the high prices of their products, due : to the lack of licensing and clones, as well as installed base. Its hard : to come out from being the underdog (esp considering the lack of : marketing). However, I think that by holding the reins so tightly, Apple : has sheltered its users from the brunt of incompatiblity (both good and : bad) and has had the opportunity to make significant improvements to the : architecture without seriously undermining their developers' work. : On the down side, bottom-line customers have found it difficult to justify : the extra money for a Mac because they haven't had to tweak config files : or hardware switches yet. I think the current and future Mac clones should : serve to lessen the gap between platform, as well as the adoption of PCI : to the price of peripherals. : * My final stab at the Mac is the lack of alternate OSs, since PC users : enjoy (in the loosest sense :) working on many different versions and : flavors of DOS, Windoze, OS/2, Linux, etc. I seriously hope that the : CHRP helps to bring some of that variety to the platform. : I am a strict Mac-user (save when I need to interact with PC-users), but its : not because of any strict superiority in one direction or another. I find the : Mac a straightforward, honest, and downright powerful computer -- it does the : work I want it to do.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!inferno.mpx.com.au!jolt!danad From: danad@jolt.mpx.com.au (V Teahan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,alt.2600,alt.destroy.microsoft Subject: Re: What sux about PowerMacs and Pentiums Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,alt.2600,alt.destroy.microsoft Date: 5 Aug 1995 08:25:06 GMT Organization: Microplex Pty Ltd Distribution: world Message-ID: <3vv9t2$nn@inferno.mpx.com.au> References: <2889272621@hoult.actrix.gen.nz> <3vdp7u$n12@lace.Colorado.EDU> <3vdq3t$n12@lace.Colorado.EDU> <3vdtsi$o4l@news.service.uci.edu> <3veaus$mv6@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jolt.mpx.com.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]