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Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???

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From: Lawson English
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 16:12
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Dan Pop (Dan.Pop@mail.cern.ch) wrote:
: In <30JUL199521455614@vms1.tamu.edu> dfa3147@vms1.tamu.edu (ALEXANDER, DYLAN FLYNN) writes:

: >P5 performance, too. With the notable (and important, I grant you)
: >exception of Microsoft products, the vast majority of apps run
: >faster on 601s compared to same clock pentiums. 

: The question is: where do I find a 133MHz 601?

: For the same clock comparisons, here you are:

: System            CPU        ClkMHz  Cache      SPECint SPECfp  Info  Source
: Name              (NUMx)Type ext/in  Ext+I/D    92      92      Date  Obtained
: ================= ========== ======= ========== ======= ======= ===== ==========
: SNI/Pyr PC/E5S    Pentium    33/66   256+8/8      67.4    61.5  Sep93 SPEC newsl
: Compaq DeskproXL  Pentium    33/66   256+8/8      65.1    63.6  Sep93 SPEC newsl
: IBM 250           MPC601     66      32           62.6    72.2  Jul94 www.ibm

: I avoided the Intel Xpress numbers and stuck to Siemens Nixdorf and Compaq,
: for obvious reasons.

: The SPEC apps don't seem to run faster on the 601/66 than on the P5/66.
: Oh, sorry, I forgot that SPEC data are pure bullshit (because they show the
: Pentiums faster than "everbody" knows they actually are :-)



I don't know about the SPEC data being pure bs, but your numbers for the 
Pentium systems certainly are: the 66mhz Pentium systems ALL have 66mhz 
data buses, not 33mhz data buses -that's PCI speed.

OTOH, the IBM 601 machine IS running with a 33mhz data bus, and has no L2 
cache.


Add cache to that machine and rerun the benchmarks. Given your emotional 
position on the subject, you will be unpleasantly surprised.

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