Article View: comp.sys.powerpc
Article #59Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....???
From: Lawson English
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 16:12
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 16:12
44 lines
2884 bytes
2884 bytes
Dan Pop (Dan.Pop@mail.cern.ch) wrote:
: In <30JUL199521455614@vms1.tamu.edu> dfa3147@vms1.tamu.edu (ALEXANDER, DYLAN FLYNN) writes:
: >P5 performance, too. With the notable (and important, I grant you)
: >exception of Microsoft products, the vast majority of apps run
: >faster on 601s compared to same clock pentiums.
: The question is: where do I find a 133MHz 601?
: For the same clock comparisons, here you are:
: System CPU ClkMHz Cache SPECint SPECfp Info Source
: Name (NUMx)Type ext/in Ext+I/D 92 92 Date Obtained
: ================= ========== ======= ========== ======= ======= ===== ==========
: SNI/Pyr PC/E5S Pentium 33/66 256+8/8 67.4 61.5 Sep93 SPEC newsl
: Compaq DeskproXL Pentium 33/66 256+8/8 65.1 63.6 Sep93 SPEC newsl
: IBM 250 MPC601 66 32 62.6 72.2 Jul94 www.ibm
: I avoided the Intel Xpress numbers and stuck to Siemens Nixdorf and Compaq,
: for obvious reasons.
: The SPEC apps don't seem to run faster on the 601/66 than on the P5/66.
: Oh, sorry, I forgot that SPEC data are pure bullshit (because they show the
: Pentiums faster than "everbody" knows they actually are :-)
I don't know about the SPEC data being pure bs, but your numbers for the
Pentium systems certainly are: the 66mhz Pentium systems ALL have 66mhz
data buses, not 33mhz data buses -that's PCI speed.
OTOH, the IBM 601 machine IS running with a 33mhz data bus, and has no L2
cache.
Add cache to that machine and rerun the benchmarks. Given your emotional
position on the subject, you will be unpleasantly surprised.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lawson English __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____
english@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ /
/ / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<3vivd6$jqo@nnrp2.primenet.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!news.primenet.com!englishReferences:
<danpop.807143070@rscernix> <3vhe3g$fi2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <30JUL199521455614@vms1.tamu.edu> <danpop.807194147@rscernix>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!news.primenet.com!english From: english@primenet.com (Lawson English) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,alt.2600,alt.destroy.microsoft Subject: Re: Debate: PowerMac "trounces" Pentium....??? Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,alt.2600,alt.destroy.microsoft Date: 31 Jul 1995 16:12:22 GMT Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010 Message-ID: <3vivd6$jqo@nnrp2.primenet.com> References: <danpop.807143070@rscernix> <3vhe3g$fi2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <30JUL199521455614@vms1.tamu.edu> <danpop.807194147@rscernix> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr4.primenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]