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Re: Apple? (subject change)

#797
From: Terry Lambert
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 18:11
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nevin@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nevin ":-]" Liber) wrote:
]
] In article <3vge4m$2o2@news.onramp.net>, johnmm@onramp.net wrote:
] 
] > If you have access to real information about the internals of a Mac,
] > would you be so kind as to tell the MAC-Linux team where you found it?
] > They tried and failed.  Perhaps you don't understand just what level of
] > documentation is needed to implement an entire OS, not just a device
] > driver into MAC-OS.
] > 
] > : "Wah... I wanna write my own drivers!"  Of all the Mac programmers I
] > : have met or know... there are incredibly few cases that they have had
] > : need to access hardware directly.
] 
] Such as??  I have yet to see anyone post specific questions (although
] groups like comp.sys.mac.system would probably be more appropriate).  All
] I see is a bit of whining about how Apple won't just give away all its
] source code.

Clearly people porting OS's *do*not*want*Apple*source*code*; if
they did, they'd be writing apps on Apple's existing OS or writing
their OS as a hosted OS using "Apple's source code" which has been
translated into object code in the system ROMs.

Equally clearly, you have been so busy wearing your "Mac advocate"
hat that you have failed to followup on the URL's posted here as
references.  So here is the official word on the missing information,
downloaded for you rather than included by reference, since you
appear unable to follow references:

| PowerPC News
| July 17th 1995
|
| (http://power.globalnews.com/articles/1380.htm)
|
| The team are expecting a flood of "why haven't you ported it to the Power Macintosh?"
| queries - the answer is, as previously that there is a dearth of
| very low-level programing information from Apple. "What is needed
| is full programming specs on the Power Macs' ADB and NuBus, listing
| addresses of the various devices, bit patterns of the commands
| and data to be written and read from to get by" according to
| Brothers. He says that repeated attempts over the past 15 months
| have failed to secure the necessary info from Apple, though he
| has hope that a recent approach may bear fruit. If something
| doesn't happen soon, however, the project to port Linux to NuBus
| Mac will become a moot point - CHRP machines will be upon us. 


                                        Terry Lambert
                                        terry@cs.weber.edu
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From: Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu>
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Subject: Re: Apple? (subject change)
Date: 9 Aug 1995 18:11:49 GMT
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