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jlp@cheeta.inesc.pt (Jaime Lares Rebelo Pinto) wrote:
>Jeff Halverson (halv0019@gold.tc.umn.edu) wrote:
>: >No, because it doesn't have PREEMPTIVE MULTITASKING yet.
>
>: My Linux box has _NEVER_ crashed due to misbehaving software.  Yes, I've had 
>: poorly written programs crash, but _NEVER_ has it taken down the system with it.  
>
>    But you can't say you lose less work than me, since I didn't lose any.
>
  Okay.  We are even on this side, I guess. :-)

>: The Mac IIsi at work, on the other hand, crashes under MacTCP at least once 
>: every day.
>
>    May be the problem is just a configuration problem, or may be you should
>use unix for the kind of things you do. I think that it's a mistake to
>believe that we all should always use MacOS, as it is a mistake to think
>that we all should always use unix. For some tasks and for servers unix
>can be very good, and is complexity is justifiably, while Macs with MacOS
>can be wonderful personal computers.

I guess thats the point I was making.  (Trying to make)  Unix is better fit for the whole 
internet hype.  Macintoshs are better for non-computer users to get work done in a 
relatively productive way.  ("non-computer users" is _not_ a derogatory word...  I only 
mean those that are not used to computers...)


>
>    As it was said before, you can have a very good environment to develop
>for the Mac, and some things are much easier to develop on a Mac than on
>Linux.
>

Not intending this as a flame... but what is easier to develop on a Mac?  (I really want 
to know, I'm not poking fun, or saying its not possible.)  I guess I ask because I've 
only developed (small projects) on Linux, and have found amazingly simple GUI tools that 
make magic.  I think there is some misunderstanding on some peoples part to thinking that 
these tools don't exist on Linux.  People tend to think of Linux as complex, when it 
doesn't _have_ to be...

>    Open systems can give way to a state near chaos, with all kind of
>incompatibilities, as you find in the IBM compatible world; Unix is very
>complex and there are to much flavors of it; I believe that the Mac is
>the best solution for most people, when it comes to personal computers.

Yes.  The potential for chaos is there.  :-)  Perhaps some of us just like to live on the 
edge!  ;-)

>
>    You, however, don't have to fit in the Mac world. If Linux is the
>best for your own purposes, go with it. But it seems to me unreasonable
>to expect most people to learn it, or to be able to have a system
>administrator for it.

Yes.  I can buy this.  You, don't have to live in the Linux world either.  I agree that 
it is unreasonable to expect everyone to use Linux.  I guess what I'm getting at is that 
Linux doesn't _have_ to be difficult.  If configured correctly, it can work just like a 
Mac... --I know this is an over-generalized, and problem-ridden statement--  
Configuration is _not_ easy (compared to MacOS) on Linux.


>    Cheers,
>    Jaime.


Jeff Halverson